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ls6monte
05-01-2010, 06:47 PM
I plan on going up to the track tomorrow because I missed the track day. I know it's going to be warm so I hope to run well. Anybody else going to be there?

chevy94c
05-02-2010, 01:49 AM
I am thinking about going up. I had a fun time last saturday.

My84Z
05-02-2010, 01:58 AM
I wish but I will be on my way/in florida

c4boom
05-02-2010, 03:44 AM
I would but I just cant make it last week drained me

CamaroRacing12
05-02-2010, 05:37 AM
maybe i will head up and video tape ronnie not sure tho

ls6monte
05-03-2010, 02:52 AM
Definetly had a fun day today! Holy crap was it hot there today! The car ran decent even with temps in high 80's low 90's. Had to run the street class and went out first round.


1st run
R/T .184
60' 1.843
1/8 7.970
mph 86.96
1/4 12.476
mph 109.50

2nd run
.270
1.778
7.886
87.22
12.372
110.15

3rd run
.188
1.758
7.914
86.59
12.435
109.20

Reaction times sucked because it's the first time this year and I always stink the first time at racing the new year! lol
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x68/rdmmcss/nedmay2nd.jpg

c4boom
05-03-2010, 03:04 AM
that thing is still running good I think it has a 12.1 in it before the end of the year

ls6monte
05-03-2010, 03:09 AM
Check out the pic on action racing photos when they put it up. The LF wheel is close to going up! Not bad for a 3760lb sled! lol

CamaroRacing12
05-03-2010, 04:12 AM
a tiny bit of weight reduction and a incredible air day it may sneak a 11.99! looks like i got some work to do if i wanna keep a lead on ron this season!

ILuvPizzaTimes10
05-03-2010, 06:26 AM
AWESOMEEEEEE RON!!!!!! thats bad assss i think you should buy that pic. But in all honesty i think your right rear is squating too much. you need an air bag or drag bar. i bet it will cut a .05 ish off your 60 foot. been doing alot of research on square striahgt launches and how if your not striaght out of the hole how it affects the whole pass. Great times in the heat!!!!! i cant wait to see my 12.5's all day cuz of the hot air.... BOOOOO


P.S. Tony, you still gotta keep up to me too!!!! BAHAHAHAA

irockidz28
05-03-2010, 02:57 PM
nice ron!

TBerry95z28
05-03-2010, 03:57 PM
good times ron!

ls6monte
05-03-2010, 04:24 PM
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x68/rdmmcss/Picture1020.jpg

CamaroRacing12
05-03-2010, 06:41 PM
yea pizza you fuckers r fast now! i need to start modding again!

84ta406
05-03-2010, 07:05 PM
Wanna borrow a trans and rear? lol

CamaroRacing12
05-03-2010, 08:22 PM
na i dont need any of those lol my trans should be good for 9's
and my rear is fine for now

ls6monte
05-03-2010, 11:33 PM
yea pizza you fuckers r fast now! i need to start modding again!
No more BOLT ON"S ONLY??????????????????? lol

ILuvPizzaTimes10
05-03-2010, 11:33 PM
^^ HAHAHAHAHA ^^

c4boom
05-04-2010, 01:04 AM
he still could do gears and suspension

ILuvPizzaTimes10
05-04-2010, 01:10 AM
hahaha i still dont see what it will get him honestly?? hes already cutting what 1.6 60 foots???

Formula413
05-04-2010, 01:12 AM
He's got a little on the table with gears and a drag bar, I think

CamaroRacing12
05-04-2010, 05:19 AM
http://www.ls1lt1.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20755

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/lt1-lt4-modifications/1140813-whos-still-going-bolt-only-record.html

i respectfully disagree

there r only 4 bolt on only LT1's in the 11's ever. i really want to be the fifth

ILuvPizzaTimes10
05-04-2010, 03:55 PM
i call BS on Cowen or what ever his names is "record" you need well over 350 to the tires to hit 118 mph at his weight, and HE AINT POSTED NO TIME SLIP or Video. Juist some dude posting numbers. i can do that too.

CamaroRacing12
05-04-2010, 07:53 PM
i call BS on Cowen or what ever his names is "record" you need well over 350 to the tires to hit 118 mph at his weight, and HE AINT POSTED NO TIME SLIP or Video. Juist some dude posting numbers. i can do that too.

its real. im telling u. there is more to et's then just rwhp. i have seen the timeslip and the video of 1slowformula's 11.50 pass and have personally talked to him. and he didnt even have all his suspension done. i totally believe 11.48 by tom cowle is legit.

like i said i respectfully disagree with u guys. i truely believe i can get my car into the 11's bolt on only as a summer daily driver like i have it now. thats the goal

john p. (1slowformula) was cutting 1.57 60fts and tom cowle cut a 1.52 60ft i believe

smokinss
05-04-2010, 08:46 PM
Not to add to the fire, but my buddie Joe down here has a bolt-on only Ls1 camaro, with a converter and he is going 11.80s and thats at sea level with full weight. So you need to add more power or really loose some serious weight.

ILuvPizzaTimes10
05-04-2010, 09:18 PM
i bet you tony that both of those guys have gone and moved the cam timing as well. its just not possible with a 3100 pound car to hit 118 mph without RWHP. there is no way around it. mph is directly related to rwhp and weight no matter what your 60 foot is.

CamaroRacing12
05-04-2010, 09:35 PM
to be honest i dont know a lot about tom cowle's setup. but i do know a decent amount of john p.'s and i know his raceweight was sub 3000lbs maybe even closer to 2900lbs.

u could be right pizza they could of messed with the cam timing. but i still think its def possible to hit 11's with what i have left to do

ILuvPizzaTimes10
05-04-2010, 11:13 PM
ohh im not saying you WONT hit 11's But im sure theres more they did to the car to hit 11.50's other then Just roller rockers and bolt-ons. and further more ANYTHING that touches oil is not a bolt on IMO.

Formula413
05-04-2010, 11:16 PM
ANYTHING that touches oil is not a bolt on IMO.

THANK YOU!!!!!

Not to mention that RR's change valve events just like a cam does.

If Tony can hit 11s with stock internals that will be an impressive feat.

ILuvPizzaTimes10
05-04-2010, 11:35 PM
rr's dont change duration or valve timing all they do is add lift.

Formula413
05-05-2010, 12:26 AM
That's what I meant, it changes the way the valve opens and closes, even if its just lift.

c4boom
05-05-2010, 12:58 AM
actually they do affect specs at .050 have seen cars need full tunes after going from a 1.5-1.7 rocker

CamaroRacing12
05-05-2010, 01:18 AM
THANK YOU!!!!!

Not to mention that RR's change valve events just like a cam does.

If Tony can hit 11s with stock internals that will be an impressive feat.

so ur telling me to leave RR's for last? haha i was planning on doing 1.7's soon hahaha

fuck it i will do full suspension first and see where i get. that would be impressive with stock rockers

Formula413
05-05-2010, 01:23 AM
Yeah I would give it a shot at going 11s stock internals if you can stand to.

ILuvPizzaTimes10
05-05-2010, 01:24 AM
thats impossible. the physics alone cant change anything BUT over all lift. i have to say it only effects Lift as my final answer.

84ta406
05-05-2010, 01:48 AM
Full tubular suspension, tubula k, a arms etc. could pick up a lot.

CamaroRacing12
05-05-2010, 02:12 AM
huge one is drag brakes. i hear u pick up soooo much with drag brakes. but i would leave that for last. u lose a lot of streetability with them.

one thing i have noticed about john P's car is his huge big gulp custom cai. i have a funny feeling it helps ALOT i plan on doing some sort of custom intake setup after i install my hood. IMO the more air flow in and the more exhaust flow out. the better. but hey thats just me

84ta406
05-05-2010, 02:15 AM
Thats true but you can also only flow so much air to where a huge intake wouldnt do anything.

CamaroRacing12
05-05-2010, 03:01 AM
well yea their is obviously a point where it becomes obscolete (sp) but i feel like a aftermarket cai is even still a restriction.
oh and btw pizza that guy john p. who ran 11.50 runs a vig 3500 (which is even a higher stalling converter then mine)

and if u read the link tom cowle ran 4.10's! just letting ya know smarty pants

TBerry95z28
05-05-2010, 01:37 PM
you can do it! haha cut his frikin balls off

CamaroRacing12
05-05-2010, 08:11 PM
i want a 11.9x passs sooo baddd then either a cam is going in or a 150 shot or maybe both :devil:

ILuvPizzaTimes10
05-05-2010, 10:41 PM
go ahead and spray it...... But if you want it to last.... i wouldnt.

Formula413
05-05-2010, 11:51 PM
Tony getting an 11.x might be as simple as going to Atco with your current setup.

ILuvPizzaTimes10
05-05-2010, 11:54 PM
???? i beg to differ. ive yet to see sea level make .4 difference in the quarter wen going from NED wich is 120 feet above sea level....

CamaroRacing12
05-06-2010, 12:21 AM
that 12.42 was during a june or july night. i never got up to NED in october to run the cool weather. remember i had that tranny leak?

i def dont think i could get a 11.9x pass with just going to atco with this exact setup. but im sure it would muster up a low 12.3 high 12.2 thereon a great day.

u got to remember i have BONE STOCK SUSPENSION AND BONE STOCK GEARS. once i dig into suspension i think im gonna great great results. i have seen some cars with less power bolt ons then me with complete suspension bolt ons running 12.5's. i feel like nice weld in SFC's, a quality drag bar and some QA1 coil overs will go a long way

oh and pizza i have seen a lot of cars on tech spraying 150 shots on the stock longblock and have lasted years and years. its all about setting it up properly. i would prolly run a 2 stage with a window switch with timing taken out and a mixture of race gas and 93. if i plan to go the nitrous route noyzee will be the guy i go to for the setup.

Formula413
05-06-2010, 01:08 AM
I do know a guy who picked up 4 tenths going from LVD to Atco, granted LVD is about 600' elevation though.

50 degree air and Atco might do it though...

ILuvPizzaTimes10
05-06-2010, 01:11 AM
More often then not tony nitrous after a while will fuck your shit up. its just the way it is. you can do what you want. i will NEVER trust Nitrous. seeing the built motors on the floor broken im all set. all it takes is ONE time it runs lean and your fucked.

Formula413
05-06-2010, 01:21 AM
If you do it be as safe as you can: pull timing, use a wet shot, don't go too big on the stock bottom end. But I'd do a cam first personally.

ILuvPizzaTimes10
05-06-2010, 03:52 AM
N/A to me is more impressive. everyone KINDA looks at spary as cheating in a way. its like WOW your fast but you had to buy a bottle to do it....

Get your 11 sec pass N/A bolt on only. i know you can do it your not stupid. ill help yah how ever i can. ill try and steer you in the right direction as much as i can. BUT we all know how pig headed you are!!! HAHAHAHA So get your 11 sec pass. AND THEN go from there!!!

CamaroRacing12
05-06-2010, 04:38 AM
N/A to me is more impressive. everyone KINDA looks at spary as cheating in a way. its like WOW your fast but you had to buy a bottle to do it....

Get your 11 sec pass N/A bolt on only. i know you can do it your not stupid. ill help yah how ever i can. ill try and steer you in the right direction as much as i can. BUT we all know how pig headed you are!!! HAHAHAHA So get your 11 sec pass. AND THEN go from there!!!

hahahah thats the plan!

i may be pig headed at times but it seems to be working for me so far!

i'll be honest im just an idiot who can read online forums and am willing to try new things. i've just done a ton of research (im on ls1tech literally everyday for 30min - sometimes 2-3 hours) i try to do my homework before every mod and see what will optimize my personal setup for my goals.

its easy to jump ahead to big power (as u can see its already on my mind) but i need to focus at the task at hand and reach my goal first. and the way i look at it i am slowly setting my car up as a complete drag setup. once i get the bolt on thing tackled all i will really need to add is a big power drivetrain, tune it, and throw in a 9 inch or 12 bolt and i will be running sweet times for my mods because the racewight, suspension, and complete setup will be there. im planning for the long run thats for sure