Lifters

[ArcticSS]

Thought i had a leaky exhaust and header ticking noise from not being tightened again after the breaking in. Turns out i did but the noise did not go away. The mechanic said its prob a lazy lifter coming from the drivers side. Question: Do the heads have to come off when doing lifters in these cars. Havent got a 100% diagnostic test to confirm but i can hear it better since the exhaust was fixed. Maybe thats why i got it pretty cheap. I got no fucking luck buying cars.

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

the LS car your talking about right? the one you just picked up? you know there is a lemon law. if you cant do it yourself it can be VERY pricy. the heads do have to come off.

[ArcticSS]

the LS car your talking about right? the one you just picked up? you know there is a lemon law. if you cant do it yourself it can be VERY pricy. the heads do have to come off.


Yea it's the LS i just picked up. Lemon law probably wouldnt apply since i bought it as is as seen from a private seller and i also drove an hour and a half into conn. to pick it up. No i prob wont be able to do it myself. I have no space available and probably not all the tools to do it probably. I figured the heads have to come off, just wasnt sure. It's not that bad yet, but it ticks and it echoes down through the bottom of the engine and it's just very annoying. Is there maybe some kind of oil additive i can use the help free a stick or lazy lifter just for now maybe to quiet it down.

I am selling my 94z today so i have a little money coming in today.

[c4boom]

do an oil change with a synthetic oil and at the same time get some gunk engine flush FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS DO NOT DRIVE THE CAR WITH THAT SHIT IN THERE. or you can add some ATF to the oil. What you need is some thing that will get all the shit out of the lifter ports allot of times.

[ArcticSS]

do an oil change with a synthetic oil and at the same time get some gunk engine flush FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS DO NOT DRIVE THE CAR WITH THAT SHIT IN THERE. or you can add some ATF to the oil. What you need is some thing that will get all the shit out of the lifter ports allot of times.

The guy i bought it from always runs mobil 5w-30. I havent changed the oil yet but i will this weekend. Should i go with a heavier synthetic and do maybe 10w-30. Ive never done seafoam will that work?. Ill add some atf when i change it later this week.

[BrokenFeather78]

The guy i bought it from always runs mobil 5w-30. I havent changed the oil yet but i will this weekend. Should i go with a heavier synthetic and do maybe 10w-30. Ive never done seafoam will that work?. Ill add some atf when i change it later this week.

Plan on a quick swap if you're using atf. It has a good chance of clearing up your problem. The best way to do it is after the add drive for a couple of hours. Then rechange your oil while it the atf batch is still hot. If you let it cool before the change the conditioners will release some of the crap you just stripped and will cake in your pan. I have done it a couple times with success.

[ArcticSS]

Plan on a quick swap if you're using atf. It has a good chance of clearing up your problem. The best way to do it is after the add drive for a couple of hours. Then rechange your oil while it the atf batch is still hot. If you let it cool before the change the conditioners will release some of the crap you just stripped and will cake in your pan. I have done it a couple times with success.


I will try that this weekend. Should i just stick with the mobil 5w-30 or go to 10w?

[BrokenFeather78]

5w and 10w isn't too much of a difference during normal summer driving. I use 10w. The snailblazer gets 5w as a winter driver. But it may be going away for a 2500HD.

[Batman]

ATF is probably your best shot to free it up but the problem normally is the retainer gets small scratches in it from the dirt and that is what holds the lifter for a second. Worth a shot though. If you do need to change them in can be done in a day but gets pricey for the gaskets and you can't re-use alot of the bolts.

[ArcticSS]

ATF is probably your best shot to free it up but the problem normally is the retainer gets small scratches in it from the dirt and that is what holds the lifter for a second. Worth a shot though. If you do need to change them in can be done in a day but gets pricey for the gaskets and you can't re-use alot of the bolts.

Yea and it only sounds like its coming from the drivers side. If it does have to come at least im getting a new head gasket. Btw how much are they anyway, i have no idea what parts i would need. Right now its only mildly ticking. But my 94z i just sold yesterday has been ticking since the first time i got i bought it 3 years ago. I say the dude got a very good deal since he only paid 2600 for it and he got my c6 vette wheels since i had no other rims for the car.

[Batman]

head gaskets are cheap but all the head bolts are torque to yield and will need to be replaced. Probably looking at $75-$100 for all the odds and ends

[monytorris]

Derrick get some new heads! Oh and I saw your 95 this morning on airport road, new owner seems to think that he is faster than me. I watched him go flying down airport road and continued doing 45.

[Bayer-Z28]

Did you fix this yet? The cheap fix would probably be the oil pump pick up tube O-Ring. Had the same EXACT problem on my buddy's car and we spent over a MONTH trying to figure it out. The X7 lefter is the first to get oil. If the o-ring is bad, then that #7 (driver's side, last cyl back) lifter is not getting sufficient oil = ticking. We EVEN installed brand new LS7 lifters and it still ticked.
Thicker oil pump o-ring GM# 12557752

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/669000-fkn-valve-tick-wont-go-away-lifter-preload.html

Watch his oil pressure boppin around. You can kinda hear it tickin like crazy.
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[ArcticSS]

Did you fix this yet? The cheap fix would probably be the oil pump pick up tube O-Ring. Had the same EXACT problem on my buddy's car and we spent over a MONTH trying to figure it out. The X7 lefter is the first to get oil. If the o-ring is bad, then that #7 (driver's side, last cyl back) lifter is not getting sufficient oil = ticking. We EVEN installed brand new LS7 lifters and it still ticked.
Thicker oil pump o-ring GM# 12557752

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/669000-fkn-valve-tick-wont-go-away-lifter-preload.html

Watch his oil pressure boppin around. You can kinda hear it tickin like crazy.
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No i havent fixed it yet. Gonna change the oil tomorrow and maybe try the atf stuff. I couldnt really hear the ticking on my speakers. The exhaust just drowned everything out. But that could be it because it is on the drivers side and sounds like its coming from the very back one.

Yea tony that guy is a little weird. He was annoying the crap out of me so bad i ended up leaving a bill of sale with my father and he gave the rest of the money to him. He's been texting me all day yesterday and this morning asking me how to fix the window motors and other shit.

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

is your oil pressure bouncing around? if its below 45 at idle it will tick. ask navy allll about that one. haha. id say if the oil pressure is low i wouldnt add ATF. id look deeper into the oil pump and pick up tube assembly

[irockidz28]

Derrick get some new heads! Oh and I saw your 95 this morning on airport road, new owner seems to think that he is faster than me. I watched him go flying down airport road and continued doing 45.

airport road? as in Warwick?

[Bayer-Z28]

Here's a good ticking video.. kind of.. Sounded like it was coming from the collector area, that's what was so deceiving about it. .

I'd almost put money on it that it's the pick up tube O-Ring.. I'm that certain.. I've been thru this.. You're about to go thru it too.. Read thru that thread on tech.. it took a SOLID MONTH of throwing parts at the fukin car to FINALLY get it.. was that damn $3 O-Ring. If I'm still around when you do it, get the water pump off and I'll do the oil pump for ya. I've got the tricks to do it without dropping the oil pan. (skinny fingahs and a "Custom 10mm wrench.. lol )
I bought two of those O-Rings. one for the install, and a second for insurance. Sorry, I meant the #7 cyl lifters are the first to get oil, the last one in line on the driver's side. It's something to do with the ported oil pumps. Or else your o-ring got pinched somehow, or blown out or god knows what. I'd replace the oil pump while you're in there. What year was the car/engine again?

CfNfdj-wtt8

[ArcticSS]

Im not sure when im gonna do it. It would be great that i wouldnt have to drop the oil pan since i just had everything welded under there. Gonna try and change the oil tomorrow if it doesnt rain. It's a 2000 z28 for reminders. Video doesnt do justice. Mine is a little more noticable. But thats exactly where the noise is coming from.

[ArcticSS]

is your oil pressure bouncing around? if its below 45 at idle it will tick. ask navy allll about that one. haha. id say if the oil pressure is low i wouldnt add ATF. id look deeper into the oil pump and pick up tube assembly

Yea at idle its around 42. But when i just left work sitting idle at a stop light it was at 40 but not really moving around until i took off. So the pressure is a little low.

[*LS1* Queen]

is your oil pressure bouncing around? if its below 45 at idle it will tick. ask navy allll about that one. haha. id say if the oil pressure is low i wouldnt add ATF. id look deeper into the oil pump and pick up tube assembly

this is a good point lol..could def be something simple as the o ring issue

[Batman]

If you go into the oil pump to do the O-ring get a ported pump and an LS2 timing chain while you are in there, money in the bank for the future. But if your oil pressure isn't dropping I'll tell you now it isn't the pump or O-ring. Navy's issue was different as his Oil pressure was getting down between 15 and 20 PSI at idle. If you are sitting at 35-40 PSI at idle the oil pump is fine. You can't have a lifter knocking from starvation if the car has good oil pressure.

[Bayer-Z28]

^ If it JUST happens to be the lifters, the LS7 lifters are the direct LS1 replacements and are off the shelf Comp Cams units. If the oil pressure is good, that is a valid point. My buddy's oil pressure was good, but dropped every once in a while. The o-ring wasn't pinched, just wasn't seated good enough in the pump.

IMO, I'd rather do the oil pump first. Easier than taking the heads off.

The O-ring problem we had wasn't starvation, it was aeration.

[c4boom]

ya that or just get a the caddy racing lifters

[ArcticSS]

Well it looks like a i cant change my oil today because of the shit storm outside and i gotta work all day mothers day.

[ArcticSS]

airport road? as in Warwick?

Yeah in warwick. Dude lives in bayside so if you see a green 4th gen with c6 wheels please give him the finger.

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

id start with looking at pump. and then go from there. 40 by the stock gauge my even be lower then you think. i dunno ive never seen a lifter go bad from nothing. yah know. something HAD to have casued it.

[smokinss]

Yeah it could be the pump.

But as far as taking the heads off. I just went through that whole ordeal because I thought I had a bad lifter or worse. I stripped down the whole topend and bought new GM MLS head gaskets and new GM bolts. It wasnt that bad of a job, I did it all myself with hand tools none the less. As long as you follow the correct tq patterns for the heads and rockers you should be just fine.

This is with the passenger side head off. I did do the other side too.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g173/camaro00/head.jpg

[Bayer-Z28]

^ Yeah, it's doable with basic tools. We did my buddy's MS4 h/c swap with one of those black plastic case tool kits. We went thru a couple things, and had to rent/borrow some stuff, but it worked out great. I got the Cometic head gaskets. I didn't need em, but I actually like the stock MLS gaskets.

People bitch about working on these cars "Woah! HTF do you get in there!? I can't see the back of the engine!" when in reality, once you get the intake out of there and avoid slicing the top of your hands, it's really not that bad. But I did have an issue on my buddy's car with the second head bolt from the front on the bottom/driver's side was a real pain on my buddy's car with his welded exhaust. And even THAT wasn't that bad. Depends on your abilities, though. I've been wrenching since I can remember.

HE bled worse than I did though.. :haha: He caught his hand GOOD on the raw edge of the rocker area on his new heads.

This was the head bolt.. Not SPECIFICALLY, but I can't find a pic of the driver's side during the swap.. This pic is my car, tho. That head bolt was a pain on mine too, come to think of it. Just in a bad spot. Got the header flange in the way and a really tight squeeze with the 15mm socket and 1/2" drive and all.
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/5176/carhead.jpg

[Batman]

Yupp,once the coils and intake are gone it is a piece of cake to work on these engines. That and getting the crank pulley off, have fun with that

[Bayer-Z28]

^ A good puller helps with that.. I've got an EXTRA strong 2 jaw puller that seems to work pretty good.

I can't find the brand or even a pic of mine, but I'm pretty sure I bought it at NAPA. It's REALLY heavy duty! Prolly around 1/4" plate steel hooks and center support. Here, I'll show off my sIk mSPaint SkillllllzzZ! :D
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/3939/puller.jpg

[Batman]

Yeah I have a Posi lock puller that works great, the issue is normally the bolt

[Slowhawk]

You guy's are jumping to quick.

Do the oil change - I run 40weight in all my cars ie -0w-40,10w-40

Then have someone that knows these engines look it over.You could piss alot of money away throwing parts at it.

[ArcticSS]

You guy's are jumping to quick.

Do the oil change - I run 40weight in all my cars ie -0w-40,10w-40

Then have someone that knows these engines look it over.You could piss alot of money away throwing parts at it.


So it wouldnt do any harm running from Mobil 1 5w-30 to 10w-40?

[Batman]

No it wouldn't hurt it at all, I run 10W-40 in mine

[Bayer-Z28]

You guy's are jumping to quick.

Do the oil change - I run 40weight in all my cars ie -0w-40,10w-40

Then have someone that knows these engines look it over.You could piss alot of money away throwing parts at it.


I'm still saying it's the Oil pump O-Ring. Been thru it already. But I think we'll just have to wait and see..

[Batman]

Then have someone that knows these engines look it over.You could piss alot of money away throwing parts at it.

Yeah ask Navy.....dumbass

[ArcticSS]

Yeah i wish i knew someone who was closer because everyone else if pretty far away. I did know a shop around west warwick but they lost almost everything in that flood.

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

how far away are you from bridewater? cant be THAT far and if its only a lifter tap you aint gunna hurt nuthin driving it to Dons.

[ArcticSS]

Im like an hour and 15 min from Don. I would need a ride back also if i have to leave it with him too.

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

i mean thats something you figure out after you know what it is. wen to drop it off i mean. give him a call. if yah need a ride back one morning gimme a call as long as its before 11ish i can swing by and bring your carless ass home!

[ArcticSS]

Alright, process of elimination. Changed the oil but i didnt use 10w-40. I put in 5w-30 with a little seafoam to see how that works after a few hundred miles then im gonna change it to 10w-40. Also going to tighten my headers just in case there is a header leak..

[monytorris]

I could also bring you to don's. Plus I do really need to get mine on the dyno and I desperately need a tune!

[Bayer-Z28]

Did you do the lifters already?

I'm tellin ya, it's the O-ring..

[Slowhawk]

Does this car have a cam or something in it? I keep seeing the o-ring fix but you only put that on the list if the oil pump has been off. The o-ring would also cause the oil pressure to bounce around.

The noise could be caused from anything.

[Batman]

The o-ring would also cause the oil pressure to bounce around.


see! The Don has spoken. I love it when he agrees with me, makes me feel all smart and stuff

[Bayer-Z28]

^ I'm thinking it's along the lines of the O-Ring or the pick up tube. The lifters for that #7 cyl are the first to see oil. Could be a bent pushrod too, but it wouldn't tick THAT bad. I had a fist full of bent pushrods in mine when I tore it apart for the h/c swap.

[Batman]

I think the 10W-40 will tell the story, I think it is just a sticky lifter but without hearing or seeing it it is hard to tell. Lifters sticking in the retainer aren't uncommon

[ArcticSS]

No i didnt do the lifters. I have to work every weekend. I didnt want to take off the heads if that wasnt the problem. Im gonna change the oil after about 500 miles or so because i put some seafoam in it. Me and tony tightened up my drivers side headers a little bit but didnt really make a difference. Headers were put on not to long ago and im thinkin maybe the gasket is pinched or blown on the bottom or not seated correctly and causing the tick.

I think i would need someone else to hear it because to me the sound doesnt seem to be coming from the valve covers and ive heard lifter ticks before. Ill try and borrow a video camera to upload a small video sound clip.

[ArcticSS]

^ I'm thinking it's along the lines of the O-Ring or the pick up tube. The lifters for that #7 cyl are the first to see oil. Could be a bent pushrod too, but it wouldn't tick THAT bad. I had a fist full of bent pushrods in mine when I tore it apart for the h/c swap.

Nah i dont think its a bent pushrod. My 2000 SS i had before had a slightly bent pushrod and it sounds totally different.

[*LS1* Queen]

ya u def need to take a vid of it or something its really hard to diagnose that type of issue not hearing it.

[Slowhawk]

The easiest is to drive by my shop and I'll listen.

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

^^ hello ^^

[Bayer-Z28]

Wait.. Wait...... When did the ticking start? is this your first set of headers? With header leaks, a pulsing/ticking sound is a primary leak, a solid hissing is a collector leak. Headers generally are a little more noisy due to the thinner walls of the tubing compared to the log manifolds.

Check your header bolts. I had a leak on my driver's side rear when I first installed my headers (2004). Re tightened the bolts and it was good to go.

[Navy01z]

I had a tick after my cam went in. Ended up being the o-ring for the pickup tube on the oil pump. Now.....no ticky.

[Bayer-Z28]

^ Another testimonial... :D Did you do an oil pump, though? I had that problem w my buddy's ms4 swap. Check a couple pages back, I posted a link.

[ArcticSS]

No i did not do any oil pump as ive only had the car a few weeks. Previous owner had the headers put on from what he was telling me not that long ago. You can hear the tick better outside the car next to the tire than undr the hood. The ticking was there when i bought the car, but i thought it was exhaust leak. Had the leaks welded but tick was still there although not as loud as before.

[ArcticSS]

Tried to upload a short video but it said upload failed because i am missing a security token and to see the admin. Do i have to buy these tokens? lol
Also tried photobucket but they are too large.Jesus I cant even upload a video.

[Bayer-Z28]

If you can hear if from the tire area, almost underneath near the collector, that's the #7 cyl lifter noise then. You said you checked the pushrods? it's something along the lines of the oil pump, the o-ring or the pick up. I'm pretty damn certain of it.

[ArcticSS]

No i havent had a chance to really do anything but tighten the headers.

[Bayer-Z28]

Yeah, if it's your DD, it's gonna take a solid afternoon to change the pump itself.

[Batman]

^ Another testimonial... :D Did you do an oil pump, though? I had that problem w my buddy's ms4 swap. Check a couple pages back, I posted a link.

He also had like 15 PSI of oil pressure at idle too though, as soon as he goosed the throttle and the Oil pressure went up above 30 his tick would go away. Take it to Don, do it the smart way.

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

Tried to upload a short video but it said upload failed because i am missing a security token and to see the admin. Do i have to buy these tokens? lol
Also tried photobucket but they are too large.Jesus I cant even upload a video.


send the video to my email. ill get it up for you.

mikebas5ett_1970@hotmail.com

as far as oil pump goes. unless its been off and disturbed theres no need to dig into the oil pump. again post up a video and then after we all bicker back and forth AGAIN. get up to Dons shop for bajesus sakessss

[Bayer-Z28]

^ Can we place bets on what we thing the problem is? :D

[Batman]

Without hearing it first hand? not on your life

[Bayer-Z28]

^ I've heard it before. I know what it sounds like. This an't my first rodeo... lol

I went thru this same ordeal on my buddy's 02 SOM SLP SS with his heads and cam swap. Came from the same area, and sounded the same.. Not the sewing machine noise, this sounds like a knock, but it's deceiving because it sounds like it's coming from the collector or the wheel well area. We thought it was the wrong push rod length so we did THREE pushrod changes, and none fixed the knocking. Then we got a push rod length checker and got the right size. We thought it was dead lifters, so we tore the car BACK apart again to replace the lifters. THEN we did the oil pump O-Ring. The O-Ring fixed it.

There wasn't a reputable, local LS* place out west, so most of the people came to me with their problems. = LOTS of research. Had a very mild vibration on a 99TA that was a pain to locate. It only did it at 1400rpm. Was reluctant to make that call with the car having 115k on it.

[Batman]

I will take the bet it isn't the O-ring though. With good oil pressure it can't be. it would either fluctuate or just be low.

[Bayer-Z28]

^ It's something along those lines. Pump or pickup.

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

^^ i venture to say IF it is a bad lifter. its JUST a bad lifter. the more i think about it. if the oil pressure is good and the oil pump was never fucked with. why would it be the pick up or o ring?

[ArcticSS]

send the video to my email. ill get it up for you.

mikebas5ett_1970@hotmail.com

as far as oil pump goes. unless its been off and disturbed theres no need to dig into the oil pump. again post up a video and then after we all bicker back and forth AGAIN. get up to Dons shop for bajesus sakessss

Video wont do any good because you cant even hear anything over the exhaust. Second not is that it wont upload in my email because it is too large. Its gonna end up having to be in person. But im leaving for florida in 2 weeks so idk.

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

bring her up to Dons begining of next week.

[*LS1* Queen]

ya give don a call and see if u can stop by so he can hear it

[Bayer-Z28]

^^ i venture to say IF it is a bad lifter. its JUST a bad lifter. the more i think about it. if the oil pressure is good and the oil pump was never fucked with. why would it be the pick up or o ring?

Isn't it just a LITTLE coincidental that it happens to be the #7 lifter? I know that's the problem cylinder, but that is also the one that gets oil first.

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

im gunna laugh wen its the header flange gasket leaking.

[84ta406]

Bring it to Don. My dad took his car there to get diagnosed and it made a WORLD of diffrences.

[BrokenFeather78]

im gunna laugh wen its the header flange gasket leaking.

Mine just started, guess what I'm doing saturday!

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

yours just started?

[BrokenFeather78]

yours just started?

Yeah last summer drivers side now pass side. Note to everyone kooks makes awesome headers but don't use their craptastic gaskets!

[84ta406]

I was always told to use GM header gaskets

[ls6monte]

im gunna laugh wen its the header flange gasket leaking.
Just ask Justin aka smokinss! He pulled his whole engine apart just to find out it was a header gasket leak!

[Batman]

Isn't it just a LITTLE coincidental that it happens to be the #7 lifter? I know that's the problem cylinder, but that is also the one that gets oil first.

If you can tell which lifter it is without putting a stethescope on it you are a way better man then me.

[*LS1* Queen]

stupid exhausts hahaha...im not guessing cause i havent heard it. lol

[Bayer-Z28]

If you can tell which lifter it is without putting a stethescope on it you are a way better man then me.

The lifters for #7 cyl see oil first.. Not sure EXACTLY which one, but I'll guess the Exh lifter for the #7 cyl sees the fresh oil first.

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

So if they saw oil FIRST.... wouldnt that make it properly oiled. and the lifters that get oiled LAST have a problem?

[irockidz28]

^ that would make sence

[Bayer-Z28]

So if they saw oil FIRST.... wouldnt that make it properly oiled. and the lifters that get oiled LAST have a problem?

READ THIS.. POST 59
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/669000-fkn-valve-tick-wont-go-away-lifter-preload-3.html
Original thread.
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/669000-fkn-valve-tick-wont-go-away-lifter-preload.html


HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO EXPLAIN THIS?! If it's a bad O-Ring, the FIRST lifter to see that oil will NOT be pumping up all the way = TICKING!
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/669000-fkn-valve-tick-wont-go-away-lifter-preload-3.html

NOW I'm getting irritated. I'VE BEEN THRU THIS. My buddy threw $600 in parts in his car chasing this problem when it was a $3 O-Ring.

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

haha your not making any sense, he CHANGE the cam and Hence had to remove the oil pump? this car has not had the front cover off as far as we know. WHY would it be the oring. again. ill argue this till im blue in the face ask tony. haha. untill we hear it in person. you and i are BOTH wrong.

[Bayer-Z28]

I HAVE HEARD IT.. I know what it sounds like..

Kind of a shitty vid, but this was what we had a problem with.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfNfdj-wtt8

Ok. If the oil is being aerated, the #7 lifter will not pump up all the way and will be spongy. Like bad brakes. I dunno.. I'm just gonna sit back and wait. Maybe the pump went.

Which would be easier/cheaper? Take the heads off and spend $100+ for gaskets and bolts or take the pulley and WP off to check the pump? Rubber + oil = a sloppy piece of rubber.

What did he replace with the cam? That should be a more accurate question. Did he measure for the correct length pushrods?

I've also heard of something going wrong with the lifter and it chewing up the cam. Just find that #7 thing being a little coincidental.

[Navy01z]

Yeah last summer drivers side now pass side. Note to everyone kooks makes awesome headers but don't use their craptastic gaskets!

I didnt. I used gaskets from ThunderRacing. GM gaskets I believe.

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

I HAVE HEARD IT.. I know what it sounds like..

Kind of a shitty vid, but this was what we had a problem with.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfNfdj-wtt8

Ok. If the oil is being aerated, the #7 lifter will not pump up all the way and will be spongy. Like bad brakes. I dunno.. I'm just gonna sit back and wait. Maybe the pump went.

Which would be easier/cheaper? Take the heads off and spend $100+ for gaskets and bolts or take the pulley and WP off to check the pump? Rubber + oil = a sloppy piece of rubber.

What did he replace with the cam? That should be a more accurate question. Did he measure for the correct length pushrods?

I've also heard of something going wrong with the lifter and it chewing up the cam. Just find that #7 thing being a little coincidental.


hahaha your getting too worked up over this MAN!!!!! its just an online forum. BUT have you heard Arctic SS' car? thats the question? no one else has heard it. i think your getting more worked up then He is hahaha. chillax it will all work out in the end. and hey guess what if your right you get to say i told you so. haha:nanafuck:

[Batman]

I'm just saying how do you know it isn't cylinder #5? I mean I know by ear only I can tell if it is the left or the right side, but the harmonics of an engine won't really let you say it is cylinder 7 on the exhaust side as it bangs away at 800 RPM. And has anyone even heard the car in person yet? I just think that since all of it is untouched and his Oil pressure is good it isn't the pump or the O-ring. But what do I know, not like I ever work on these things.

[Bayer-Z28]

Yeah.... Anyway.. I'm goin up to Maine for a couple days to see my aunt before I head out to Vegas.. I'll still be on here tho.. Until I get bored or something.

[ArcticSS]

The easiest is to drive by my shop and I'll listen.

Hey Don, do you want me to call you and make an appointment? When im up there i might inquire if i need a tune also. Dont think i need one but you'll hear how it runs. Im available to bring it up there on Saturday or anytime during the day Monday,Tues or Weds just for a listen andwhat you think.

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

youd be better off sending him a call. he doesnt check here much wen he gets busy.

[Slowhawk]

youd be better off sending him a call. he doesnt check here much wen he gets busy.

Got that right.Stupid busy now. Give the shop a call and leave a message. I'll return the call.

[ArcticSS]

Got that right.Stupid busy now. Give the shop a call and leave a message. I'll return the call.

See you saturday.

[TBerry95z28]

See you saturday.

i thought you lived in florida arctic?

[BrokenFeather78]

Thats smokinss T

[TBerry95z28]

oh shit got them mixed up haha thanks feather

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

^^ MORON!!!!! ^^

[TBerry95z28]

^^ MORON!!!!! ^^

hey none of that pizza boy ;)

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

hey none of that pizza boy ;)


^^ sucks :nanacock: for coke???? ^^^ i think sooooooo

[TBerry95z28]

^^ sucks :nanacock: ^^ for free yess sirr haha

[ArcticSS]

i thought you lived in florida arctic?

Nah i live in warren which is like 5 min from Swansea

[smokinss]

Yeah I live in Florida. And yeah I tore down my motor and found out I had a header leak. Anyway, you make any progress yet???

[nem SS]

lucas

[ArcticSS]

Goin to see Don saturday afternoon. Im hopin its just a stupid header or collector leak.

[ArcticSS]

Yeah everybody was wrong!!! Turns out two of my front drivers side plugs were backing out of the block and were only hand tight. As soon as they were tightened the ticking/leak went away. Thanks Don. Prob would be calling you soon about a tune when i get back from florida.

[84ta406]

And thats why I didnt guess... Glad the problem is solved!

[BrokenFeather78]

Wow that's a first!

[Batman]

Told you it wasn't the oil pump, pay up!

[ls6monte]

Kool Derrick! Glad it was an easy fix.

[*LS1* Queen]

well good thing is was nothing major

[smokinss]

Damn thats the first Ive heard of that on a ls1. Sounds kinda like the fords that used to strip the plugs right outta the head.

[Slowhawk]

I've seen it a few times.He started the car,listened a bit and saw the plug boots shaking.Car cooled a bit and 2 plugs were almost ready to fall out.Tightened and he was on his way.

[c4boom]

that's awesome that it was that simple.

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

KICK ASSS!!!!!! man thats good news!!! HEY BAYER...... Umm you suck... just saying

[Bayer-Z28]

^ .. it could have been anything.. Sometimes it's the stupidest things that kick our asses..


I'd love to mouth off, but I'm too tired to think of anything..

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

hahahaha Lazy Ass!!!

[Bayer-Z28]

I mean you guys thought it was the lifters. You were gonna have the poor guy rip the heads off to replace em. On top of prices for gaskets and a weekend of not having the car... So I'm not the only dumbass.