My BIG turbo build at Slowhawks

[TrickrTreat]

As a few of you know i have a turbocharged 99 trans am. I bought it stock, it went through a nitrous phase then i decided to turbo it. swapped in a 6.0 and a t76 and ran it for a couple years. the kit was Extremely restrictive and of poor quality , constantly in need of welding because of cracking. So i decided to hit don up and we worked out a deal to tag team the new turbo build.
The car drove in as this:
TTI street kit (log manifold on driverside with manifold on pass side crossed over) rated at 450-500 before it becomes restrictive.
t76 turbo
Stock 6.0 shortblock
stock ls1 intake
selfported 317 heads
F-11 cam
3 inch thick air to air intercooler rated at 550hp
38mm turbo smart wastegate.
http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr123/mikalmyerz1031/race003-2.jpg

I hate typing.......anyways , so first heres the star of the show.
Here is the old t4 76mm next to the new t6 71MM ....yes thats right.... its not the size of the inlet that counts its the amount of cfm the compressor can supply. the t76 is rated at about 500-600hp with the exhaust housing it has on it. the new 71mm is rated at 850hp
http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr123/mikalmyerz1031/Jan2011024.jpg

Both have an A/R of .96 on the exhaust side

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[TrickrTreat]

Day one consisted of getting the old turbo kit off and pulling the radiator and intake and front cap to make room for the new intake , radiator relocation, and new turbo kit.

Couplers anyone LOL?

http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr123/mikalmyerz1031/Jan2011018.jpg

Had a tire on the highway rip part of the charge pipe off, this was a "quick fix" but it worked.

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heres some more, pictures speak for themselves

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[TrickrTreat]

Radiator core support cut,.... bar welded in.

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NEW INTAKE ON

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Radiator in.

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[TrickrTreat]

Weve been on it for a few days so im not going to keep up with what day was what but ill keep the info in order at least :)

Bottom support for the radiator.

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[TrickrTreat]

Driver side manifold facing forward (pass sd 6.0)

http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr123/mikalmyerz1031/Jan2011044.jpg

Pass side of k member notched for manifold clearence with Passenger side manifold facing forward (driv sd 6.0)

http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr123/mikalmyerz1031/Jan2011042.jpg

[TBerry95z28]

yesss! nasty build

[TrickrTreat]

hot side piping, minus the wastegate.

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[TrickrTreat]

Hot side mocked, turbo mocked.

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Turbo braced

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New intercooler rated at 850hp

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[TrickrTreat]

Interooler and hood latch mounted up

http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr123/mikalmyerz1031/Jan2011061.jpg

New 5 inch downpipe flange to 4 inch

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[jayws6]

nice work

[TrickrTreat]

nice work

thanks were still mocking every thing up, once its all done , it will all come off then i will grind, clean ,wrap, and paint whatever needs it ,then reassemble it all.

[c4boom]

thats so awesome I see blown up 6.0 in your future LOL

[*LS1* Queen]

sweet!

[DemonWithin99]

you should buy a spare set of tires... lol

[bottledbird68]

Awesome.
I know I'll be following this one very closely :)

Where exactly do you have the turbo braced off of? Any more pics of that?

If not then I guess that's just one more reason why I need to get my ass over there lol.

[KLAB]

Good job! I love this build mostly because it was a shocking budget/easy way of makeing the bigger cube motors make crazy power without crazy mods, but now you're pushing it to its capabilities.

So you're using 6.0L truck manifolds flipped? Are all 6.0L manifolds the same, I would imagine the truck's are different from the suv's. They seem to fit pretty well what were you using for manifolds previously some custom ones from the kit?

[ls6monte]

Looks like fun Sam! Are you going to put a cage in it now? lol

[My84Z]

Very Nice Sam!

[Slowhawk]

It's a cheap turbo build IF you do it all yourself. We'll have a good 80-100hr's into this when done.

[KLAB]

Thats the best part of it :) Seems like a good budget for a boosted LSx

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

ABOUT FUCKING TIME JACKASS!!!!!!


Looks Even Better In Person!! Don and Sam do nice work. even though Sams a Slut and Dons a Dick!!!

[jayws6]

lolllllllllllllll:la: :nanacock: :funnyshit:

[TrickrTreat]

Cold side mocked up today. turbo to intercooler is 3" and after the intercooler to the TB is 3.5"

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[My84Z]

I thought the edelbrock elbows sucked ? They good for fi?

[TrickrTreat]

I thought the edelbrock elbows sucked ? They good for fi?

Thats the theory , but yes N/A they suck.................but we'll see about it with FI . If it doesnt like it the ill switch a sheetmetal elbow

[black heartbeat]

looks beautiful man, now get a cage

[TrickrTreat]

looks beautiful man, now get a cage

yup thats the plan........Cage, trans, and rear.

[KLAB]

ooooow no more stock trans huh? shucks I like that hahaha. But thats gonna be much better setup. Looks like a much more solid/quality turbo setup than before :)

[SLP IROC-Z]

looks like youll gain alot of power from the reduction in drive pressure with the bigger turbine housing and turbine wheel on the new turbo. how do u think spool up is gonna be?

[Slowhawk]

Sam is slacking on the pics.

The car is getting close to running.......

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

WTF SAM COME ON!!!!!!!

[black heartbeat]

Well isn't don a bit of a shit starter tonight Maddie being a She-Ass and now Sam is slacking:shitstirrer:

[Slowhawk]

Thats whay happens when you work 4 days non-stop.

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

wahh wahh i work 4 days non stop wahh wahh......


i still love you!!

[black heartbeat]

We're talking about real work mike lol:hanged2:

[TrickrTreat]

Crunk it up today!!!!!! Pics tommorrow , I have to bring my laptop home for that. All pics from last updated to yesterday will be posted. :)

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

DOES IT FUCKING RUN YET!?!?!?!


and after its all sed and done WOULD you do it over again? A lot of work went in there!!!

[TBerry95z28]

still waiting on those pics! hahah and she finished yet?

[Slowhawk]

It runs,just waiting for a few parts to show up to connect the 4" exhaust.

[TrickrTreat]

Ok so turbo kit is finished , just finishing the exhaust after the k member tomorrow. heres some pics that i took along the way.

Welded the wastegate flange


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Wrapped the hot pipes.

http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr123/mikalmyerz1031/slohawk2005-1.jpg

Relocated the fuse boxes

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cut the stainless "airbox delete" sheet metal down to fit over the radiator.

http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr123/mikalmyerz1031/slohawk2009-1.jpg

Went with a 46mm presicion wastegate with a 10 psi spring

http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr123/mikalmyerz1031/slohawk2008-1.jpg

Cleaned up the wiring.

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Tial 50mm BOV and no more rubber fuel lines.

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This is pretty much what it looks like right now. ill post more pics tomorrow. need to get the car in some light for better under hood shots.

http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr123/mikalmyerz1031/slohawk2023-1.jpg

[c4boom]

now question If you had it could you have kept the ac some how

[bottledbird68]

Looks good. That pipe to the throttle body looks real nice. Ground, smoothed and painted I assume?

On another note, you around tomorrow night? I think I'm headed in that general area tomorrow and haven't forgotten picking stuff up if I didn't take too long already. I'd love to see it in person.

[Formula413]

now question If you had it could you have kept the ac some how

LOL I thought the same thing

This thing is shaping up to be a monster, nice work. It looks like you didn't even have to cut the cowl to fit that intake?

[frankzlt1]

looks real good

[TrickrTreat]

now question If you had it could you have kept the ac some how

Keeping the ac is always possible when building a turbo kit ,but in every turbo build ,it always comes at the cost of efficiency do to the kits routing. The point to this build was 0 loss in efficiency. The first kit I had kept the ac, but I had the previously mentioned problems. So ac had to go. Besides, I have had the car for over 3 years all of which where in Cali. Can't remember but 3 times where I actually used my ac, and all were just to impress someone. Lol

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

Nice build so far man!! cant believe its not done yet man honestly! haha HURRY UP!!!!! YOU HAVE A MONTH TILL THE TRACK OPENS!!!!!

[Slowhawk]

Can't keep the AC if your running a 4" downpipe and have 0 ground clearance issue's.

Keep the AC and have a shitty exhaust =yes.

[c4boom]

don is that even with a tubular K member?

[TBerry95z28]

looks awesome! I wanna see what it puts down for numbers now!

[Slowhawk]

don is that even with a tubular K member?

Put a 4" pipe in the engine bay and see. Takes up alot of room.

[Slowhawk]

Guess who was driving around today.....................

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

Ohh Shit!!!!!

[Formula413]

What did it put doooooowwwwwwnnnnnnnn???

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

who cares i wanna see what it will run!!!!!

[My84Z]

nice!

[c4boom]

O I know it takes a shit ton of room I just didnt know how much room the k member gave you

[Grovlet]

Keeping the ac is always possible when building a turbo kit ,but in every turbo build ,it always comes at the cost of efficiency do to the kits routing. The point to this build was 0 loss in efficiency. The first kit I had kept the ac, but I had the previously mentioned problems. So ac had to go. Besides, I have had the car for over 3 years all of which where in Cali. Can't remember but 3 times where I actually used my ac, and all were just to impress someone. Lol

You may regret that after the first summer here without it.... In CA humidity is not really a huge issue, while here it's typically 90%+ in the summer.... So a temp of 85 feels like 95+, and you'll realize A/C is really helpful.

I hope I'm wrong, but don't be surprised when you miss it:Oops:

[ls6monte]

He was here last summer so he knows how our summers can be. :gears:

[KLAB]

He was here last summer so he knows how our summers can be. :gears:

LOL I probably wouldn't care about A/C if I had t-tops myself :)

[Slowhawk]

I know what the car made, na na na na na na...... he he he

[My84Z]

Lol okpreschool don

[frankzlt1]

come on man tell us

[Slowhawk]

Makes more power at 8 lbs now than it did at 14 lbs before

[c4boom]

thats friken sick because he was puting down over 600 at 16 I think he said

[Formula413]

I'm wondering if he cracked 700

[KLAB]

I know what it did :P

[KLAB]

snapped Don's neck!! :klab:

[TrickrTreat]

Ok.... I'll post the graph later but before we did the kit I wanted to get a base on dons dyno. I've always dynod on a dynojet.

Turned the boost down to a controllable level.

So the base was 492hp and 540trq at 14psi

(Best was 17 psi and a little race gas to hit 621 hp on a dynojet)

Today...........

First pull was 540 hp and 492 trq at 8psi with NO tune change period!!!

Upd the boost to 11 psi and it made 592hp and 580trq.

Stopped for the day because I had to leave early . Leaving for four days be back to play some more..

Mind you this is a BONE stock 90,000 mile shortblock. I'm already past the flywheel hp limits of the motor. The goal was to gain efficiancy and durability . Now the short block is the limiting factor in power output:sCh_elmodance:

[TrickrTreat]

Quick math for you while looking at this graph

With 3 less psi

@5600 rpm

I gained 100 hp and 90 trq to the tires.
:bar:

[My84Z]

Very nice sam great job!

[TrickrTreat]

Very nice sam great job!

Thanks. It feels absolutely ridiculous !!!

[c4boom]

now put a cage in it and get ready to blow some parts

[frankzlt1]

nice job sam

[Slowhawk]

Well, the tune isn't done yet either. It will probably be 600/600 when done.

[Formula413]

Dude I want a ride in this thing!!!

[TrickrTreat]

Well, the tune isn't done yet either. It will probably be 600/600 when done.

Yup 600/600 with 11-12 psi ..........shits going down with this new setup!!!:Lurking:

[TBerry95z28]

goddamn! can't wait to see this beast at the track!

[Slowhawk]

Should mention it lost no spool time at all either.

[c4boom]

thats awesome so what do you think with a good set of heads and a proper cam (if the short block would take it) the system is capable of? is there room to upgrade the turbo If he ends up going to some thing like a 408 set up?

[ls6monte]

Very nice Sam! Going for 9's soon? lol

[Slowhawk]

This power curve is a 9 second car already.

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

SICK!!!!!!!! Good Luck with it Sam! and were is the GRAPH!!!!!!!!!

[TrickrTreat]

thats awesome so what do you think with a good set of heads and a proper cam (if the short block would take it) the system is capable of? is there room to upgrade the turbo If he ends up going to some thing like a 408 set up?

This cam and heads arent holding the car back. It's the short block. WE stoped at 11 psi. Coulda kept going with the turn of a knob. I'm already over 650 flywheel horsepower . Mind you I'm through a auto. That's waaaaaaaay past the limit of the stock 6.0. But This kit will support 1000hp easy.


This turbo is the easiest to upgrade. 500$ and I can get it upgraded to what ever i want all the way up to a 91mm.

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

I LIKE IT!!!!!!! CAN I HAZ RIDE!?!?!?!? PLEASE!!!! I ASKED NICELY!!!!

[Formula413]

I ASKED FIRST BITCH!!!

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

ehhhehehehe i live closer!!

[My84Z]

Nice throw some rod bolts in it and up to the boost to 20 :) I kid I kid lol

[c4boom]

make sure you get it on video

[irockidz28]

I LIKE IT!!!!!!! CAN I HAZ RIDE!?!?!?!? PLEASE!!!! I ASKED NICELY!!!!

ME TOO!!!! lol

[KLAB]

haha I'm with Alex and Mike what can we do for ridea in this thing??

[KLAB]

We should plan a meet ride in Sam's boosted 6.0 day :klab:

[irockidz28]

what he said!

[TBerry95z28]

everyone pitch in for gas! sounds like a plan hahah

[Slowhawk]

Someone hit 600/600+ today:69:

[*LS1* Queen]

SICK!!!

[ls6monte]

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetttttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[frankzlt1]

Fkn aweeeesoooooommmmmmeeeee

[TrickrTreat]

THING IS A BEAST!

Made 630 hp 639 trq with 13.5 psi and 93 octane.

Ran it through the 1/4 real quick on the simulater. Forgot the rev limiter was set at 6400 so i was on it before i hit the finish.

left off 1000 rpm (brakes wouldnt hold) then hit it hard, eased off so it wouldnt be to rough on second then when it took second i hammered down on it.

60' 1.68
330' 4.42
660' 6.66 @ 112 !!!
1000' 8.52
1/4 10.16 @ 126 (limiter)

Shes got 9's in her ALLLL DAAAYY.

Graph from today. i F'd the before and after graph up so ill have to get don to print another.

http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr123/mikalmyerz1031/Scan_Pic0001.jpg

[c4boom]

so how hard can you push that thing before the lower end tends to come apart ? or is it already past that

[c4boom]

I think you need a cage for sure now and a trans and new gears LOL may be some 3.42s or 3.23s

[TrickrTreat]

I think you need a cage for sure now and a trans and new gears LOL may be some 3.42s or 3.23s

Im running 3.42's right now. and its past the limit. its at 700 flywheel. I dont even have rodbolts. its a stock truck shortblock.

4l80e hopefully next few weeks.

[c4boom]

i guess with a 25" tall tire I can see 600 rpm in the converter and posible trans slippage could just run a 28" tire at the track

[TrickrTreat]

i guess with a 25" tall tire I can see 600 rpm in the converter and posible trans slippage could just run a 28" tire at the track

i am, im going to a 28" asap. all the time.

[Slowhawk]

yup, needs the tranny.. LOL

[bottledbird68]

yup, needs the tranny.. LOL

So, I guess that didn't take long now did it lol.

[TrickrTreat]

So, I guess that didn't take long now did it lol.

Nope, slipping 3rd and 4th gear clutches under load. LOL :tard:

[TrickrTreat]

Got my 4l80e today!

[TrickrTreat]

http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr123/mikalmyerz1031/slohawk2001-2.jpg

over flow

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[TBerry95z28]

well that was fast lol. you going to build it?

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

i love the no airfilter no wheel well thing.......

[bottledbird68]

i love the no airfilter no wheel well thing.......

Bah, it's got some screen clamped over the inlet :D

[Formula413]

Could it fit one of those foam pad things the Supra guys use?

[TrickrTreat]

Could it fit one of those foam pad things the Supra guys use?

Doesn't need one imo . i ran my last turbo kit with the same "mesh screen" setup and it was mounted low to the ground under the car for 2 years. when i pulled all the piping and intercooler and intake off, it was like new, no dust or grime or anything. .

So up inside the engine compartment, should be perfectly fine.

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

hahaha i know this. i was messing with you. boomer on the other hand would like to build your car for you...... AHHHHH

[c4boom]

hay i see a 8 second pass in that thing just pull the line off the waist gate

[Formula413]

Yeah, ONE eight second pass. Then a ride home on the trailer. :haha:

[TrickrTreat]

Goal is drive it to NED , run 9.99 or better, drive it home and continue driving it every day like i have for the last 3 years.

[TBerry95z28]

that's an awesome goal! now let's see it

[Formula413]

NED opens next month!!! :)

[ZFreie]

NED opens next month!!! :) Sweet

[TrickrTreat]

Orderd the yank converter today for the 4l80e !!! :tard:

[Formula413]

Nice, what stall speed?

[TrickrTreat]

Nice, what stall speed?

Long stroy short,

its a 3,400

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

yeah 3400...... inch? STR?

[Slowhawk]

Inch -homo

I ordered it. Specs are secret.....

[KLAB]

Goal is drive it to NED , run 9.99 or better, drive it home and continue driving it every day like i have for the last 3 years.

I like that goal!

[TrickrTreat]

I like that goal!

I believe its 100% possible with this new setup too. Its sooooo strong.

I mean i know there's guys out there that make more then me,
700, 800+ hp , but i dont think they are trying to drag there vehicles to the limit.

I'm gonna do everything i can to put every bit of my usable power, to the pavement!

THEN ill have to try to find the right class too run in, that i can be Competitive in.

[c4boom]

or just get dumb do a lower end and run that bitch into the low 8s

[TrickrTreat]

Trans is in!!!!!

Don Rough tuned it in for low boost (9psi) friday. Feels AWSOME gotta work on rerouting my fuel system up front, set the shift points, and tune it for 13 psi.

Shell be ready for the dyno day though .

[My84Z]

Very nice Sam!

[941LE]

that car is insane! didnt feel like it was gonna stop pulling

[bottledbird68]

How much of your gain do you think was from the intake swap over the stock intake?

[TrickrTreat]

How much of your gain do you think was from the intake swap over the stock intake?

not much......i know that when i went from my ls6 back to my stock ls1 i saw maybe 3 hp drop, which could have just been attributed to air temp outside.

The main reason for doing it was to help even out the cylinders afr wise, and looks :)

maybe at 1000 hp It would be a big difference between intakes on turbo cars, but from what I've seen and what others contest to , is its the consistency your chasing not so much the hp.

[midnight]

Trans is in!!!!!

Don Rough tuned it in for low boost (9psi) friday. Feels AWSOME gotta work on rerouting my fuel system up front, set the shift points, and tune it for 13 psi.

Shell be ready for the dyno day though .

Just read through the entire thread...had no clue what was going on with this car...looks amazing, and having been in a 450hp sc mustang a buddy of mine owns i can only imagine how BRUTAL this thing must be lol

looking forward to seeing it this weekend!

[TrickrTreat]

Just read through the entire thread...had no clue what was going on with this car...looks amazing, and having been in a 450hp sc mustang a buddy of mine owns i can only imagine how BRUTAL this thing must be lol

looking forward to seeing it this weekend!

Thanks! Ya it feels awsome!! Just got the shift points worked out yesterday and turned the boost back up. Made 613 on 12.5 psi. And ran a 9.96 on slowhawks dyno 1/4 simulater leaving easy. Should lay down some sick numbers on the 1320.

[Motaboata]

Thanks! Ya it feels awsome!! Just got the shift points worked out yesterday and turned the boost back up. Made 613 on 12.5 psi. And ran a 9.96 on slowhawks dyno 1/4 simulater leaving easy. Should lay down some sick numbers on the 1320.



glad u got it all worked out!

[c4boom]

LOL 9 second street car awsome ness

[ls6monte]

The car looked sweet tonight Sam! Keep it under a 100 if you can! lol