biting the bag

[midnight]

So as i found out today one of the tires on the stock wheels has a "faster than slow" leak, so what this does in my mind is force me to get new tires for the 18s lol This however does cause some problems...as I will be dropping $700+ on tires (car also needs an oil change), I wont be able to make this coming track day that I was looking forward to, instead ill be beefing it up for the next track day :) (if someone wants to let me tag along for the ride ill still come and shoot video/photos though)

the real reason for this thread:

im trying to decide what tires to go with...I know Joe was looking at some tires and asking for opinions but I personally didnt want to go with any of those. Here are the contenders:

NT05 295/35/18s in the rear (10.5" wheel) , with 275/40/18s up front (9.5" wheel) (they didnt have 35s in the 275)

or....

while searching it appears i can no longer find ANY 305s that arnt 555Rs


basically the reason for the NT05s is the combination between a drag radial and a street tire, they have a 200 tread wear (555Rs have 100, 555s have 300) so at the track they should hook with what power i do make and daily driving during the summer (car will be off the road for the winter) and wont kill my wallet having to replace them. the way i see it if i can get atleast 2-3 seasons out of the NT05s (keep in mind ill see the track twice a year at best) i can justify it.

if you guys have any ideas on who makes a 305/18 tire let me know. otherwise ill be ordering the NT05s tomorrow.

[My84Z]

So wait a second cause you have to buy tires u can't spend 50 bucks to go racing??

[SLP IROC-Z]

all or nothing thinking FTL. instead of spending 700 dollars have the damn leak fixed for next to nothing.

[midnight]

i need to buy the tires anyway, im using it as an excuse. The tires are beat, and me racing on them isnt going to cut good times anyway so its almost a waste.

and John, I live 2 hours away. a race day for me is AT MINIMUM $110 (gas, race fee, and spectator fee for the woman) Sure i can still go race, but thats not smart money management. why arnt YOU going? cuz you cant afford the time off. same idea

I was already sorta upset because on the street with these tires, first and second are useless. On the track i know traction may improve some what, but not much, With my lack of experience ill be cutting 13s with a car thats easy low 12s. just a waste. But like i said i still have the day off and ill absolutely go up, but not interested in emptying my savings making 2-3 passes down the track, and then what if i break something? The tire is getting patched anyway as the car is probably going to sit on these tires during the winter. But ive got some nice wheels sitting that need tire, why the hell not.

[midnight]

how about the question i originally posted people asking.

does ANYONE know of someone who makes a 305/18 tire?

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/searchTiresBySize.do?sw=false&cs=305&ar=30&rd=18

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/searchTiresBySize.do?sw=false&cs=305&ar=35&rd=18

TAKES 2 SECONDS TO SEARCH ON A TIRE WEB SITE!!!! Are You New?

[midnight]

thanks for NOT reading my post

im not looking for 100 tread wear tires lol

[Batman]

NT-05's are not drag radials, or even similar to them. They have good traction but also stiff sidewalls. They are a handling tire and probably going to be too stiff to get a good launch at the track, especially if you are raising the rim size from 17 to 18. They are however fantastic wet/dry tires for the road and I'm sure you will be happy with them. And really you probably aren't going to see a difference between a 295 and 305 tire. I am sure a 295 series NT-05 is going to be a much better tire than a 305 Khumo Ecsta

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

Or cheap shit new tires up front and good set or DR's out back.

[My84Z]

Don't bs me i have the same car but mine is worst on gas 50 buck will get you there back and enough fuel to race

[midnight]

Don't bs me i have the same car but mine is worst on gas 50 buck will get you there back and enough fuel to race

..yeah dude...$50 for a full tank...$30 to race, $10 to spectate...ok i was off, $90...but then you gotta eat...$100 lol no ones BSing you. thats the cost of it.


Batman - have you run with them? just curious cuz Ive read a few reviews from guys that use them for drag racing at the track and said they are great. Sort of what turned me on to the whole dd/weekend racer deal as far as tires go


Pizza, thought about that too. Most drag radials though, from what ive heard do OK in the rain but not good. I really want to be able to have that drivability in the rain as well. If i could find a set, id go 555s again, i loved those tires, but I think i loved them because i was using them on the auto and they were just enough grab for it to not spin.

[My84Z]

I only said gas cause wether you go or not you are gonna eat and it's a saturday don't tell me you wouldn't end up doing something that costs 30 bucks on a saturday wether it be bowling movies or anything with the gf. So suck it.

[midnight]

I only said gas cause wether you go or not you are gonna eat and it's a saturday don't tell me you wouldn't end up doing something that costs 30 bucks on a saturday wether it be bowling movies or anything with the gf. So suck it.

Ive already gone food shopping, so i have food here to eat, and most likely we wont be going out if we dont go to the track, were not the most interesting people. I do not wish to suck anything.

[My84Z]

So you still "have that grille" and you just went grocery shopping so now food isn't in the equation. You say u wouldn't do anything but u still could either way i think your just skeered

[941LE]

Hahaha John

[midnight]

So you still "have that grille" and you just went grocery shopping so now food isn't in the equation. You say u wouldn't do anything but u still could either way i think your just skeered


yup im supahscuured thats why ill be at the next track day with bells on :)

[midnight]

also john you wanted a Giant cock and balls decal in black and silver right? just making sure


i was one of 3 people going anyway...and it doesnt matter cuz the only other person racing is selling his car now lol

[DemonWithin99]

i need 17's...
just say'n, but i don't feel like burn'n $700 on rubber that might see the track 1 time.

[midnight]

i need 17's...
just say'n, but i don't feel like burn'n $700 on rubber that might see the track 1 time.

wasnt saying anything bad about your choices, just not the route i wanted to go. plus the difference in tire sizes changes the line up a little

[My84Z]

I'll tell you what Mike you can use my et streets that way you don't burn rubber or worry about tires....

[Batman]

Ran a Corvette at the track with them, they are def sticky but they are also def not drag radial sticky. I'd still go with them hands down over about any other tire out there. For the price you are not going to find a tire that can do as much as well. But 1.6 60ft times are not gonna happen IMO. Also having talked to Nitto they are absolutely not designed to run on low air so do not deflate them at the track. They also don't need to be heated up so if you go that route just clean em off, otherwise you are just wasting tire. Also make sure your buddies aren't using the NT-05 DR, there is one out there and it is going to be alot better at the track

[midnight]

I'll tell you what Mike you can use my et streets that way you don't burn rubber or worry about tires....

really?

Ran a Corvette at the track with them, they are def sticky but they are also def not drag radial sticky. I'd still go with them hands down over about any other tire out there. For the price you are not going to find a tire that can do as much as well. But 1.6 60ft times are not gonna happen IMO. Also having talked to Nitto they are absolutely not designed to run on low air so do not deflate them at the track. They also don't need to be heated up so if you go that route just clean em off, otherwise you are just wasting tire. Also make sure your buddies aren't using the NT-05 DR, there is one out there and it is going to be alot better at the track

Oh i dont have any buddies running them, just reviews i read on discount tire. They were refering to the street tire. Im not going to be launching hard enough to cut 1.6s even with a tire that can handle it. I cut a 1.8 on the 555s in the camaro and that was the best. consistantly was 1.9-2.0. The idea is to get it running a 9" and that wont be til next season (probably end of) anyway in which case ill be due for a DR/slick upgrade. Keeping what youve said in mind they still sound like the route i want to go, glad to hear something positive about them from someone i know.

[My84Z]

I'm gonna bring a couple different setups so yes u can use em for a couple passes y not

[midnight]

I'm gonna bring a couple different setups so yes u can use em for a couple passes y not

thought you werent coming?

[My84Z]

Surprise?

[Motaboata]

hmmmm...wish my posi unit was in... damn.... i really dont feel like my rear end blowing and i dont think they will let me run with my homeade drag radials

[midnight]

so you are going or not? lol

[midnight]

hmmmm...wish my posi unit was in... damn.... i really dont feel like my rear end blowing and i dont think they will let me run with my homeade drag radials

sure they will...lol

[My84Z]

Yes and josh bald tires are a no no

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

hmmmm...wish my posi unit was in... damn.... i really dont feel like my rear end blowing and i dont think they will let me run with my homeade drag radials


So come to hang out.:nanafuck:

[Motaboata]

bald isnt the word.. im gonna get a pic tomorrow...its a homeade drag radial lol.... surprised no metal is showing... i have new tires... just waiting to put posi unit in before new tires go on

[midnight]

Was talking it over with Kerry, Shes usually the sensible one when it comes to money and shes like, order the new tires, AND go have fun at the track.... so fuck it im coming lol bout to go order the tires up and hope they get here in time, but your my back up plan in the event they dont get here.

[midnight]

bald isnt the word.. im gonna get a pic tomorrow...its a homeade drag radial lol.... surprised no metal is showing... i have new tires... just waiting to put posi unit in before new tires go on

i remember the spark burnouts with bimmer in raynham LOL

[Motaboata]

i remember the spark burnouts with bimmer in raynham LOL



lmao that shit was funny... hahaha

[ls6monte]

I wish I could make it but saturdays are a no no with me, especialy at the end of the month. I don't want to hear from anybody about taking it off because it's NOT going to happen. lol

[My84Z]

I took it off just saying .....

[*LS1* Queen]

i remember the spark burnouts with bimmer in raynham LOL

and then him almost losing it hahaha

[midnight]

I wish I could make it but saturdays are a no no with me, especialy at the end of the month. I don't want to hear from anybody about taking it off because it's NOT going to happen. lol

I took it off just saying .....

I talked myself out of it and you all talked me back in...

its only fair i give you equal shit since i got on Johns case, with that being said...

In Pizza's Trademark Voice: COME ON!!!

[Motaboata]

and then him almost losing it hahaha

shush hahahha....

then 1 night i thought i could drift trashed leaving the foxy and lost it and caused 6k in damage lmao

[midnight]

shush hahahha....

then 1 night i thought i could drift trashed leaving the foxy and lost it and caused 6k in damage lmao

i still remember when you got it and we went for a ride at Joe's surprise birthday party and just doing donuts in the middle of an intersection lmfao

[SLP IROC-Z]

the thread should be retitled to "biting the bag"

[My84Z]

Or permission to go racing or no balls!

[midnight]

fuck you all. and i mean that with love

[CamaroRacing12]

hahahaha another thing about the orginal post noone mentioned is its better to get all one size so u can rotate them ;)

[midnight]

hahahaha another thing about the orginal post noone mentioned is its better to get all one size so u can rotate them ;)

9.5" rim up front and a 10.5" rim out back. Wont work

[Motaboata]

John let me use ur tires

[My84Z]

This isn't community tires lol go buy some

[DemonWithin99]

the robin hood of tires...

[Motaboata]

i have them.. just not on yet.... figured my car wouldnt do as much on them seeing its low HP lol

[midnight]

so for those of you who arnt on my FB

discount tire called and said the 295 NT05s were out of stock, we went ahead and ordered 305/35/18 555Rs for the rear and 275/40/18 555s for the front. Little dissapointed but hopefully all works out...just raelly concerned with wet trac.

[ZFreie]

so for those of you who arnt on my FB

discount tire called and said the 295 NT05s were out of stock, we went ahead and ordered 305/35/18 555Rs for the rear and 275/40/18 555s for the front. Little dissapointed but hopefully all works out...just raelly concerned with wet trac.Don't drive like a jerk and I'm sure youll live. When you get them, first time it rains go find a parking lot and do some tight corners and see where they let go...how i learn my cars.

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

i had nittos rain or shine and they were Awesome. Actually better then my street tires i have now.

[*LS1* Queen]

just dont drive like a tard and ull be fine..the 555Rs were fine in the rain for me..like mike said they are better then some street tires..i had toyos and bfgs and the DRs were better imo

[My84Z]

only downside to dr's is they kick shit up everywhere when warm cause they are sticky so put some extra wax behind the wheels or rubber like my car and enjoy!

[midnight]

Don't drive like a jerk and I'm sure youll live. When you get them, first time it rains go find a parking lot and do some tight corners and see where they let go...how i learn my cars.

im good to it when doing my daily driving, dont beat on it too much, unless some asshole pisses me off lol

[Formula413]

For the millionth time: NITTO DRAGS WORK FINE IN THE RAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KB93z28]

I had some Goodyear eagle F1's on my car when i first got it, they were a little low, and pretty sketchy in the rain, my nitto invos on my car now are awesome in the rain, ive never had a problem with them.

[midnight]

For the millionth time: NITTO DRAGS WORK FINE IN THE RAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

others people idea of fine and mine are two different things lol

[midnight]

I had some Goodyear eagle F1's on my car when i first got it, they were a little low, and pretty sketchy in the rain, my nitto invos on my car now are awesome in the rain, ive never had a problem with them.

they did have invos but i was concerned they were a little TOO much of a street tire for me.

[Formula413]

What do you want, 1.6 60' times on wet pavement?

[Slowhawk]

All my cars have Nitto 555R's. No problem doing 100mph in the rain. I would say thats a pretty decent tire in the rain.

NT05's, forget about it. I personally know of 2 totaled F-body's from driving them in the rain.

[midnight]

What do you want, 1.6 60' times on wet pavement?

no i want stability. my 555s were perfect in the rain, i could actually step on it pretty hard and not lose traction in the rain. I figured with the tread block being bigger on the 555Rs that wouldnt be the case.

[KLAB]

I have a pair of M/T drag radials if you need em.... 17's

[SLP IROC-Z]

Kevin, are they any good? i want them!

[KLAB]

They're pretty dam beat but hey if things are tight and you need a tire they'll do...

[DemonWithin99]

All my cars have Nitto 555R's. No problem doing 100mph in the rain. I would say thats a pretty decent tire in the rain.

NT05's, forget about it. I personally know of 2 totaled F-body's from driving them in the rain.


that convinces me .... I need more $$... fkn diapers...

[midnight]

that convinces me .... I need more $$... fkn diapers...

time to go old school and switch to cloth ones?

[DemonWithin99]

try these? (http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findTireDetail.do?pc=40344&counter=1&ar=40&rd=18&sw=false&cs=275) < click

[midnight]

completely out of stock in all 3 warehouses..and they dont have them in 295s or 305s...the only ones i could have got were the Invo's but i had a feeling those were a little less grippy

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

Were are you going threw? Check out summit.

[midnight]

Were are you going threw? Check out summit.

discount tire. only place ill do business with. Last time i orded tires they had excellent service and a decent price, this time when they were out of stock, they gave me FREE replacement certificates in case of road hazard and rush shipped them

didnt check summit tho lol

[Formula413]

Discount Tire Direct will also heat cycle tires for a few bucks extra, good for DRs and road race tires, not sure of any other distributors that offer that.

[DemonWithin99]

I'll see if TFT have them at the warehouse and they will match the $$. won't let them touch the car but at least I'd get the tires from them. (if they match the $ and have them)

[midnight]

I'll see if TFT have them at the warehouse and they will match the $$. won't let them touch the car but at least I'd get the tires from them. (if they match the $ and have them)

ya, wonder if they actually stock a race tire like that though. assuming your talking about the 555Rs

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

ive gotten Nitto DR's from town fair. and if they beat the price they beat it by 10%!!

[Formula413]

Definitely worth a shot, just don't let them touch the car.

[ZFreie]

ive gotten Nitto DR's from town fair. and if they beat the price they beat it by 10%!!arn't summits 555rs pretty cheap? 555rs for my car would be 170 bucks. Replacement tire i got covered under road hazard at TFT would have been 130...thats a normal street tire.

[midnight]

i think for the 305s i paid, or would have paid if they didnt goof up on their stock, $266 a tire...keep in mind, 305/18s

[ZFreie]

i think for the 305s i paid, or would have paid if they didnt goof up on their stock, $266 a tire...keep in mind, 305/18sMy bad, i thought you had 275/17s for some reason.... Couldn't even find a wider tire on summits website then 275s. lol

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/NIT-180680/

[My84Z]

Problem is finding someone to install them for a price that warrants it worth buying from online to me.

[ZFreie]

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/NIT-180680/Hmmm, i might have had my car inserted into the search when i looked. Haha

[midnight]

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/NIT-180680/

ya there like $13 more expensive and do they offer free shipping? i couldnt find it.


John, i got the local pep boys hook up. getting my tires put on and the old ones removed for $40

[SLP IROC-Z]

buying tires off the internet FTL.

[ZFreie]

buying tires off the internet FTL.Why is that?

[SLP IROC-Z]

because most tire places wont mount and balance tires that werent bought from them. we have a whole sale account with townfair tire, wholesale prices, free mounting and balancing.

whatta ya do when your online tire needs to warrantied? ship it back???

[ZFreie]

because most tire places wont mount and balance tires that werent bought from them. we have a whole sale account with townfair tire, wholesale prices, free mounting and balancing.

whatta ya do when your online tire needs to warrantied? ship it back???WTF, you serious about the "if its not bought here we wont touch em?" And, I don't have pizzas luck with things so i basically never have to warranty things haha, but them are valid points! To bad tft dosnt show on their site that the carry nittos, I wonder how much 555rs for stock rims will be.

[SLP IROC-Z]

townfair tire doesnt stock nittos but they can order them. the regular 275 40 17 555s i ordered for maddies car were $165 mounted and balanced iirc

[midnight]

because most tire places wont mount and balance tires that werent bought from them. we have a whole sale account with townfair tire, wholesale prices, free mounting and balancing.

whatta ya do when your online tire needs to warrantied? ship it back???

You can get any mechanic who has the machine to do a mount and balance. And I don't know of any place that turns down money.

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

Try going to firestone, tft, pep boys, or any other "chain" place. They all say noy just for liability reasons. They install your tire the tire fails you go back there like wtf and they say tough luck. Looks worse on them then if they just sed no in the first place.

[midnight]

Try going to firestone, tft, pep boys, or any other "chain" place. They all say noy just for liability reasons. They install your tire the tire fails you go back there like wtf and they say tough luck. Looks worse on them then if they just sed no in the first place.

pep boys is installing my tires that i didnt buy with them...yea i have a hook up on price but if it went against the stores policy he wouldnt do it. so pep boys does in fact do it. this will be the second location ive got it done at too, first one in Seekonk, and this ones in west warwick

[SLP IROC-Z]

You can get any mechanic who has the machine to do a mount and balance. And I don't know of any place that turns down money.

reputable places wont, sure independant garages with a tire machine and balancer probably will however i dont know of indepedants with the right machines for doing low profile tires and aluminum wheels not to mention stick on weights.

[*LS1* Queen]

ya if u go that route u better pray ur wheels dont get fubared!

[Formula413]

There is a place near me that will mount and balance four tires for $50, including stick on weights. They will mount tires you supply and don't seem to be hacks either.

[black heartbeat]

one by me that does the same only for 40 :-)

[KLAB]

Just get em balanced at walmart....


LOOOOOOL

[midnight]

honestly, from what ive heard, the places that have walmarts that do it supposedly do good work. I originally was like HA fuck that, but i cant remember who now but they said they did a decent job.

as long as you dont fuck up the rim and it holds air right and is balanced properly, i dont see how you can be bad at it

[ZFreie]

honestly, from what ive heard, the places that have walmarts that do it supposedly do good work. I originally was like HA fuck that, but i cant remember who now but they said they did a decent job.

as long as you dont fuck up the rim and it holds air right and is balanced properly, i dont see how you can be bad at it
This, when i was at school (going back this fall) i used to mount and balance tires of all shapes and sizes, and you would really have to pull a bone head move to mess up a rim. I had chrome rims on the 300m and never hurt em.

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

listening to my BOSS at the garage just after i started. i put a wheel on a MAX of 16" tire machine(old school with the pinch bar). this was a special edition F-150 wheel...... 17". so i proceded to do as instructed. and POP!! went the rim. So if your new or not paying attension or being instructed wrong. a rim can get fucked up anywere. ive seen guys AT tire/rim places like firestone fuck up peoples wheels. just trying to rush to get out on time or what have you can all have an effect on how well the job comes out. makes no difference were you go. its all Human error. not the machines being used. be nice if they made automated tire machines.

[midnight]

listening to my BOSS at the garage just after i started. i put a wheel on a MAX of 16" tire machine(old school with the pinch bar). this was a special edition F-150 wheel...... 17". so i proceded to do as instructed. and POP!! went the rim. So if your new or not paying attension or being instructed wrong. a rim can get fucked up anywere. ive seen guys AT tire/rim places like firestone fuck up peoples wheels. just trying to rush to get out on time or what have you can all have an effect on how well the job comes out. makes no difference were you go. its all Human error. not the machines being used. be nice if they made automated tire machines.

like the self check outs in the grocery store?

[DemonWithin99]

i got a place that will mount balance and nitro fill for $45. or another that will mount balance for $20.

[midnight]

wow thats a good deal

[midnight]

so theyre on.

the fuck i cant fit 4 wheels and 8 tires in an fbody!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/medic287/IMAG0053.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/medic287/IMAG0054.jpg

had my chest on the steering wheel the whole time, if i was taller it wouldnt have happend.

got them on and everything is great, kid did an awesome job and I watched him out in the garage the whole time. Only thing was, he said he was having a hard time getting the rears to balance but he did finally and said to let him know if it didnt feel right. There is a definite roughness coming from the rear but i cant tell if thats just the drag radials. I expect a rougher ride from them. I might have to have someone go for a ride with me and you tell me. Otherwise the car feels amazing and even just driving it normally i can feel a difference in grip.

tomorrow night im gonna pull the rears off and grind down the bump stops a little, at full range in the suspension it rubs very slightly, but unless i spend alot of time going over jumps i wont see the effects, just an insurance policy. We did have to hammer in the lower fender well cuz they did rub but other than that everything went up well.

[My84Z]

U could have atleast covered the plastics so as not to scratch them

[midnight]

nothing scratched....its called dont go throwing them in there all ape shit and not driving like a dick the whole way lol

[My84Z]

Bullshit oh and fail for no pics of rims on car etc ass

[midnight]

Bullshit oh and fail for no pics of rims on car etc ass

too dark by the time they pulled it out of the bay, tomorrow.

and bullshit nothing shitbag!

[ZFreie]

U could have atleast covered the plastics so as not to scratch themCouple scratches for drag radials, seems worth it lol

[midnight]

Couple scratches for drag radials, seems worth it lol

and if i did scratch it i would still completely agree with this lol

[*LS1* Queen]

that picture makes me cringe

[ZFreie]

that picture makes me cringeOh man, wait till you see the lack of my car! Nothing to scratch up but sheet metal. Lol

[midnight]

Nothing is scratched Jesus your all drama queens

[ZFreie]

Nothing is scratched Jesus your all drama queens:gayfight:

[My84Z]

You SUCK!

[midnight]

so went out and took some shots. HOLY SHIT, anyone wana go off roading?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/medic287/IMG_2474s.jpg

aside from a badly needed drop...ive already reported on how the tires feel....but they look sexy as fuck too!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/medic287/IMG_2475.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/medic287/IMG_2477.jpg

[My84Z]

If only the interior wasn't scratched that thing would be mint lol

[midnight]

FUCK YOU JOHN!! goddamnit!

anyway lol

so i noticed theres a clunk when hitting bumps. i think it has to do with the part of the fender that we hammered in....

so mid way through typing this i stopped and went outside...looks like thats exactly what it is:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/medic287/IMAG0057.jpg

so wheels are coming off tonight and ill be fixing that lol

[KLAB]

like the self check outs in the grocery store?

I hate those...

[*LS1* Queen]

looks good mike...why does everyone freak out about the wheel gaps on these cars jesus buy a honda if u want it lowered

[Formula413]

It's weird, this car seems to have just the right wheel gap in the back but sits a little high in the front, usually it's the opposite

[ZFreie]

Looks sweet man!

[midnight]

Maddie you gotta see it in person...18s really pivk it up and I'm not a low car fan

[KLAB]

It's weird, this car seems to have just the right wheel gap in the back but sits a little high in the front, usually it's the opposite

exactly how my car is its called saggy rear springs!!! :C

[midnight]

i think its just the pic cuz i do see it in the pic but when i look at it in person i dont see it...oh well in any even it works just fine :)

[smokinss]

Looking good man. Car is coming along for ya.

[midnight]

thanks man!