Rear end swap

[Camaro9969]

Is there a few pictures on here of someone whose just changed out a stock rear with another one? Doesn't seem too hard just haven't done it before. Is it a pain in the ass???

[My84Z]

It's easy and straight forward just try and remember the few brackets and bolts you take off to put on the other. Just take your time and it'll be easy

[SLP IROC-Z]

its not hard, pretty straight forward. youll need to have the bearings pressed on the axles, but you have to put your backing plates on the axles first. id put the 3rd member on the housing before putting the housing in the car. i used a gasket on mine with sealer on both sides and it doesnt leak. put the springs in, raise the housing up. use the shocks to hang the housing then connect the LCAs, Torque Arm, PHB.

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

aftermarket rear or another 10 bolt.

[Camaro9969]

aftermarket rear or another 10 bolt.

Just another 10 bolt with 410s it was free

[Camaro9969]

its not hard, pretty straight forward. youll need to have the bearings pressed on the axles, but you have to put your backing plates on the axles first. id put the 3rd member on the housing before putting the housing in the car. i used a gasket on mine with sealer on both sides and it doesnt leak. put the springs in, raise the housing up. use the shocks to hang the housing then connect the LCAs, Torque Arm, PHB.

Why would I have to put the axles in? Just another 10 bolt fully assembled. Were you thinking the guts???

[SLP IROC-Z]

thought you were putting in a 9 inch!

[Camaro9969]

thought you were putting in a 9 inch!

That is my winter project I got this rear for free with 410s in it i figured why not throw it in. I just bought a s91 Turbo for my 6 litre motor for the project it will definitely need that 9"

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

yeah if its a 10 bolt to 10 bolt swap its nuts and bolts. man nothing crazy at all. just take your time.

[Camaro9969]

yeah if its a 10 bolt to 10 bolt swap its nuts and bolts. man nothing crazy at all. just take your time.
Ok cool thanks I appreciate it

[SLP IROC-Z]

direct swap as long as it has the same abs. a 3 channel can be made a 4 channel but you cant make a 4 a 3.

[Camaro9969]

direct swap as long as it has the same abs. a 3 channel can be made a 4 channel but you cant make a 4 a 3.

Its a 3 and i have a 4 does it really matter? I hate ABS and tcs ......or is it worth makiing it into the 4? How do you do it?????

[Formula413]

I believe you would have to swap the axles over because they have the reluctor wheels for the TCS. Even if you don't want/use it that would at least keep the idiot lights in the dash off.

[SLP IROC-Z]

you have to put your axles, backing plates, brake lines and sensors/harness on the 3 channel rear.

[Camaro9969]

you have to put your axles, backing plates, brake lines and sensors/harness on the 3 channel rear.

I saw on tech all you have to do is drill a hole in the top and drop the sensor in? That's not correct? If thrats the case im taking the bulb out of the dash for now its not worth it in two months I'm doing a Ford 9"

[SLP IROC-Z]

thats to convert a 4 channel to 3 channel. however doing that requires putting a reluctor wheel on the diff, im not sure how complicated that is.

youll still need to put your brakelines on the 3 channel rear because the 4 channel cars (cars with traction control) have two seperate brake lines going to the rear brakes vs 1 brake line the 3 channels use.

confused yet lol.

[Camaro9969]

thats to convert a 4 channel to 3 channel. however doing that requires putting a reluctor wheel on the diff, im not sure how complicated that is.

youll still need to put your brakelines on the 3 channel rear because the 4 channel cars (cars with traction control) have two seperate brake lines going to the rear brakes vs 1 brake line the 3 channels use.

confused yet lol.

Ya I was planning on using my brake lines from my car thr way it sits. Why are there two separate lines??? Not really confused yet haha I'm just going to do it and see what hapless haha I know my lights will be on but no big deal to deal with for now

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

traction control controls the brake pressure to each wheel individually as well as a better control for ABS. i took all that crap off. but its a safety thing. and all you need to do to keep it is is swap your backing plates with the sensors. and the axles for the reluctors. but unless the rear end has brakes already on it? you will need to swap that crap over anyway.

[Camaro9969]

traction control controls the brake pressure to each wheel individually as well as a better control for ABS. i took all that crap off. but its a safety thing. and all you need to do to keep it is is swap your backing plates with the sensors. and the axles for the reluctors. but unless the rear end has brakes already on it? you will need to swap that crap over anyway.

I want to take it off too its an horrible ABS system. The rear end doesn't have brakes on it so just swap it out and go for it basically? haha backing plates are simple. Your saying switch axles? I'm getting into this Saturday morning hopefully it goes smooth

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

yeah swap axles over with your backing plates. you have to remove them to swap the brakes Anyway. best thing i do is eithre mark wich way is back, up, down, or faces out on all the shit thats coming out WITH the rear end and you will need to swap over. then you will need to drop the rear cover. remove either the paddle pin or spider shaft depending on what carrier you have? if its an Auburn you will see yellow springs and it will have an 8mm(possibly7mm) bolt holing in the pin. if you have a Zexel Torsen you will hardly be able to see inside the unit and you will see a small tab on the top of what i call a paddle. its a square pin the holds the axles inplace. BE CAREFULL!!! removing this bolt. if it breaks forget it you wont get your axles out.

ok now that the pin is out. puch each axle in SLOWLY as not to ruin the seal at the end but push it in far enough to allow the c clip enough room to pop out. catch it with a magnet. and then reassemble the same way. and use either yellow or blue locktite to hold in the pin bolt. Do Not use Red. or you will break the bolt the next time you try and remove it unless you heat it with a map/propane torch.

any questions text me. 508 208 0525.

[Camaro9969]

yeah swap axles over with your backing plates. you have to remove them to swap the brakes Anyway. best thing i do is eithre mark wich way is back, up, down, or faces out on all the shit thats coming out WITH the rear end and you will need to swap over. then you will need to drop the rear cover. remove either the paddle pin or spider shaft depending on what carrier you have? if its an Auburn you will see yellow springs and it will have an 8mm(possibly7mm) bolt holing in the pin. if you have a Zexel Torsen you will hardly be able to see inside the unit and you will see a small tab on the top of what i call a paddle. its a square pin the holds the axles inplace. BE CAREFULL!!! removing this bolt. if it breaks forget it you wont get your axles out.

ok now that the pin is out. puch each axle in SLOWLY as not to ruin the seal at the end but push it in far enough to allow the c clip enough room to pop out. catch it with a magnet. and then reassemble the same way. and use either yellow or blue locktite to hold in the pin bolt. Do Not use Red. or you will break the bolt the next time you try and remove it unless you heat it with a map/propane torch.

any questions text me. 508 208 0525.

Thanks man i appreciate it.I see you have done this before!!! but one thing is why am i doing all that? the rear end is complete all together it just doesnt have rotors on it has the axles already in. it was in another car a few weeks ago it has rotors brand new i just dont need them i have 3 sets with calipers. Maybe we are thinking differently but i just figured take out the rear and swap it out with the new one i just got. Disconnect the driveshaft, torque arm, calipers, sway bar, rear shocks and thats pretty much it. I must be wrong i just am confused on the whole axle thing. I dont care about the lights for now i'm just using this for a couple months or a couple runs on the track if it breaks haha.

[irockidz28]

you know i have been followin this...really think its worth it just to do it all over again in a couple months?? ahahaha

[Camaro9969]

you know i have been followin this...really think its worth it just to do it all over again in a couple months?? ahahaha

Yes it was free and probably need the practice. I want to be in the damn 11s and this will do it. I'm just swapping it out rear for rear I don't give a shit about sensors right now. Ill hopefully do it in 5 hours. It won't be as bad as the headers I'm sure.

[Formula413]

Plus he's looking to go 11's and the 4.10s in this rear might be just enough.

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

it all is based on if the backing plates are on the rear end? if not you Will have to put them on so you can hang your brakes onto the brackets.

[My84Z]

I say tie up the abs tcs wiring put the rear in and see how you like no abs or tcs before taking it to the track. The swap will only take lkke 2 hours so y not!

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

they actually unplug behind the tank right nexto the fuel pump shit.

[My84Z]

Yes but i wouldn't chance weather getting into it

[Camaro9969]

it all is based on if the backing plates are on the rear end? if not you Will have to put them on so you can hang your brakes onto the brackets.

Oh I get what your talking about sorry I didn't get it. Yes they are on here. It actually has thebrakes on it now but I told him I do not need rotors and pads. The calipers are on here. Ill post some pictures when I get a chance. I appreciate all the help I think its going to be a lot easier than I thought i just never did it before so I wanted to be careful.

[Camaro9969]

I say tie up the abs tcs wiring put the rear in and see how you like no abs or tcs before taking it to the track. The swap will only take lkke 2 hours so y not!

I've never used tcs at the track and ABS sucks as long as it doesnt screw up the whole system ill be very happy I like hearing the two hour thing haha. I saw the whole swap on GM high tech performances website it looked so simple I appreciate the help though!!

[Camaro9969]

Here's some pictures of this nasty rear end....joking of course hahahaha
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e151/Gsxr1000Z71/bsfImg.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e151/Gsxr1000Z71/bsfImg-2.jpg

[Camaro9969]

Finally Finished up the rear end what a pain in my ass. Nothing ever goes smoothly with old ass parts as i'm sure you all know. Everything breaking or not coming apart without heat or cutting off. Then some new parts were garbage. Anyways its done. Here are some pictures. and thanks to Pizza i got through it without killing someone! haha Thanks again Man. it was more of a pain in the ass than i expected. At the end my Abs sensors wouldnt fit because the ends of the rear end were not notched with the abs sensors in them....so fun! Oh and I still need to fix my spedo its off a good amount haha Time to get it tuned???? Or send out the PCM

342's
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e151/Gsxr1000Z71/342gears.jpg
410s
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e151/Gsxr1000Z71/410gears.jpg
This picture cracked me up with the monster tires on it and the Tiny rear end haha
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e151/Gsxr1000Z71/gianttires.jpg
Done
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e151/Gsxr1000Z71/410done.jpg
Camaro's !999 !969
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e151/Gsxr1000Z71/9969.jpg

[irockidz28]

Nice! looks good!!

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

Hell Yeah!!! and why didnt you just grind a little off to get em to fit?

[Camaro9969]

Hell Yeah!!! and why didnt you just grind a little off to get em to fit?

That's exactly what I did to get them to fit perfectly. Everything is great i couldn't believe how many quarts that rear took with the new cover 4 instead of 1.5