new motor?!?!?

[DemonWithin99]

not for me, but someone sent me this because they don't want to deal with a used motor/rebuild. seems like the cheapest option on a new motor.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/nal-89017352

seems legit, but who knows. opinions?

[941LE]

maybe your brother should pony up and actually get a good one.

[My84Z]

You get what you pay for however I am sure tht it is a cheap rebuild and would work fine.

[84ta406]

Why not save and buy a shortblock?

[DemonWithin99]

Having difficulty finding a short block. He's done dealing with rebuilt, or used. But really has a small budget. I've pointed out like 90 other options, but to no avail. He was ready to pull the card out and buy it as soon as he saw it. Impatience is going to kill his dreams...

Found several lq9's in need of a rebuild, for great prices, but he's dead set on finding something new with a warranty. Not easy to do since they've basically stopped selling anything less than ls3's and ls7's.

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

want a warranty have a motor rebuilt locally for the car that will be warrantied.

[frankzlt1]

Try power source engines they offer a 3 y 100.000 mi warranty and if you order on line they will throw in another 2 years of warranty. A 99 ls1 is $2649 with a $350 core and free shipping.

[Slowhawk]

If you plan on a motor like that and have us put it in, just make sure we price it out for ya. Might save you money.

[Slowhawk]

Keep in mind that just because places say Warrenty, doesn't mean they will when they break. Have dealt with shit company's a few times about Warrenty.

[DemonWithin99]

I hear ya. I told him to shoot yo an email, figured you might not have anything laying around this early in the build season... lol

I also told him to wait and see what you might be able to get. Lack of patience is what'll cost more. Not entirely sure what the hell is really wrong with this one, I'm sure you'll know exactly what it is by the time it gets in you're shop again... lol

[Camaro9969]

If your buddy wants to spend a little more on a motor i can send you a build sheet of this guys 383 i was going to buy before i decided on the 6.0. Its a fully built forged motor i saw the build sheet spent 7600 bucks but i bet he could offer him 5k or maybe less and the guy would do it! Then give it to Don to throw in.

[DemonWithin99]

nope. he's not looking for anything more than a stock motor. spending everything he gets just to get this car running again and wants it to stay running for a while. I think he's finally understood that the cost will be more for a new motor than a rebuild, but wants a better guaranty that it's going to stay running for more than 6 months. it's his only ride and he's been without it for a year (feels like 3). We can all feel his pain in seeing the dead bird in the yard. I'll have my hands full getting the resources together just to get everything to the shop, once he understands the overall cost and not just the parts I'll get the ball rolling on making things happen.

He just sent me this because it's the 1st motor he's found at this $ and got excited.

[Camaro9969]

nope. he's not looking for anything more than a stock motor. spending everything he gets just to get this car running again and wants it to stay running for a while. I think he's finally understood that the cost will be more for a new motor than a rebuild, but wants a better guaranty that it's going to stay running for more than 6 months. it's his only ride and he's been without it for a year (feels like 3). We can all feel his pain in seeing the dead bird in the yard. I'll have my hands full getting the resources together just to get everything to the shop, once he understands the overall cost and not just the parts I'll get the ball rolling on making things happen.

He just sent me this because it's the 1st motor he's found at this $ and got excited.

well a forged built motor would last more than 6 months unless he sprays a 300 shot on it daily LOL He should just get a cheap lq4 or one of those 5.3's would cost him less than a grand and he would be fine. If he buys a motor and it dies in 6 months he's doing something wrong. Check the oil and drive it! You will get nowhere with a warranty on one of those motors. They will find a way not to give you a new one. it shouldn't blow anyways especially on stock power

[941LE]

it shouldnt but hes already gone threw 2 stock motors somehow

[Camaro9969]

How the hell is that possible???? The LS is one of the strongest motors around!

[DemonWithin99]

they were both stock high mileage 98's. 1st one was the original motor, blew a rod threw the wall. this one now we have no idea wtf the problem is and the only way to find out is to pull it apart. honestly it's better to have a replacement ready to go if it's gotta get pulled to determine the issue. Not worth it to rebuild a 98'. he's got plenty of options, just not enough $.

story of our lives.

[KLAB]

How the hell is that possible???? The LS is one of the strongest motors around!

bahahaha

[84ta406]

A properly rebuilt motor should last light years beyond what a stock motor would do.

[Motaboata]

i had a 98 motor and i beat the ever living shit out of it... and she never gave me an issue ..weird...

[My84Z]

98 vert is at 115ish and has the turbo etc 450rwhp and goes 11's runs like a top

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

bad luck or drives like a tool when your not around? haha

[Camaro9969]

Ya something is up for these motors to keep blowing. i beat the SHIT out of my old ls and it had 132k on it and its still running strong in a Miata now.

[My84Z]

I think we have been down this rd before he is obviously neglecting to take care of the motors but anyways.... Get a good engine shop to just rebuild his use some arp bolts and slap some newer heads and a ported oil pump on it.

[DemonWithin99]

yeah none of the things we would think of or deal with is even in the thought process here. I cannot vouch for his driving when I don't see him, but I would not count out over rev or missed shifts. The overall costs we know and understand are a part of owning these machines. He's had horrible luck with f-bodies but loves them just the same as we do. I'd put an A4 in it with a freshened motor and bet it lasts forever, but that too is wishful thinking.

once again there is a small budget and unrealistic outlook on finding something for next to nothing. finding a local shop that will beat the quality work of our favored and beloved Slowhawk is harder than finding a motor new or used that is going to fit that budget, (once we factor in what it takes to get it to the shop) lol

For all we know it could be a top end issue and an easy replacement, but the fear is that it may be a bearing or worse in the bottom end. If the walls are scored it's trash and not worth rebuilding. only way to find out for sure is to get inside it, that being said to minimize downtime and shop costs it's better to just have a new/replacement motor at the ready. If the old one is salvageable then we'll rebuild it and save it for the next time... lol

I personally would give him my motor if I had the need/desire/money to drop a new motor in mine. I don't so it's not gonna happen anytime soon. I'll be attempting to talk more sense into buying a more family friendly transport till the $ gets where it needs to be in order to get things done.

As for this link I couldn't find anything better for a new ls1, but that's just online. Thanks for much of the info though, input like this helps (even a little)

[smokinss]

Not for nothing but for 3 grand you can have a forged short block built. Not sure about up where you guys are but I got quoted 3200 for a forged 347 with arp rod bolts and all machine work.