My awesome craigslist find of the month #2:

[KLAB]

First find was the Saturn for $900. Then there's this: I picked up this set of factory service manuals for 1995 Camaro/Firebird for $50 today and a trip to Rochester Nh and back. SICK FIND!!!! I have been looking for these since I got my car almost two years ago, and prices are at least triple on ebay and can't find them anywhere. Fuck yeah! Adding these to my bible collection. :D

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs214.snc3/22144_279665839663_578354663_4513300_2977352_n.jpg

:ebay::piss: :klab:

[black heartbeat]

damn nice dude, but I dont' ever consider a Saturn a "find" unless you are being paid to take it to a junk yard

[KLAB]

I consider it a find because for $900 I got a 2000 Saturn with no rot or body damage, no problems needed only a wheel bearing and a few tune ups, gets 30mpg, and IS MORE RELIABLE THAN OUR CAMARO'S, 150k and goinggggg ;) So with still only about $1100 into it its a pretty damn good find because its been getting me to work and school and everywhere economically while my Camaro is warm and cozy :D

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

^^^^ YOUR REBUTTAL CAPTAIN HEARTBEAT!?!?!?!

[ls6monte]

You wont find ANY rot on a PLASTIC car body Captain Obvious! lmao







Congrats on the manuals Dick!

[KLAB]

Moron I'm talking about the undercarriage!!! Its fresh underneath.

[black heartbeat]

the problems being that it is only in a way "more reliable" than our camaros. The timing belt have a tendency of breaking for no apparent reason and in doing so destroying the heads (happened to my moms car), the calilpers have this funny thing of just freezing up at random, sometimes so much that it boils the brake fluid and all sorts-a-good shtuff happens (happened to two of my friend's cars). They're transmissions...well they just suck in every way possible, like they will get stuck in gears for prolonged periods of time, like to slip and also just blow. The headlights have some of the most uneven lighting I've ever seen in a car. If you get in crash or fender bender for that matter, good luck, cause your driving something with about the same amount of metal in it as a tin can. The valves like to stick all the time. If your gas cap isn't on "just right", the car will start to buck for some reason and you need to get out, undo it, redo and pray the car likes how you put it on. Oh, and their PCM has this "advanced" feature where it likes to make your car decelerate as you are trying to enter a highway sometimes. The ignition switches have this funny thing about the cold, they don't like to work in it sometimes. Oooo, here is my favorite, somtimes the motor fucks up when you try to brake while exiting the highway, and it revs to redline, anf yd when you tap the brakes it locks them, sometimes braking a rotor and you of you go into the woods! Cool huh?! Other than that though, they are very reliable and all over "awesome" cars. You want to some more? Cause I have a whole slew of these little buggars!

[black heartbeat]

oh and I am Captain Heartbeat!

[KLAB]

the problems being that it is only in a way "more reliable" than our camaros. The timing belt have a tendency of breaking for no apparent reason and in doing so destroying the heads (happened to my moms car), the calilpers have this funny thing of just freezing up at random, sometimes so much that it boils the brake fluid and all sorts-a-good shtuff happens (happened to two of my friend's cars). They're transmissions...well they just suck in every way possible, like they will get stuck in gears for prolonged periods of time, like to slip and also just blow. The headlights have some of the most uneven lighting I've ever seen in a car. If you get in crash or fender bender for that matter, good luck, cause your driving something with about the same amount of metal in it as a tin can. The valves like to stick all the time. If your gas cap isn't on "just right", the car will start to buck for some reason and you need to get out, undo it, redo and pray the car likes how you put it on. Oh, and their PCM has this "advanced" feature where it likes to make your car decelerate as you are trying to enter a highway sometimes. The ignition switches have this funny thing about the cold, they don't like to work in it sometimes. Oooo, here is my favorite, somtimes the motor fucks up when you try to brake while exiting the highway, and it revs to redline, anf yd when you tap the brakes it locks them, sometimes braking a rotor and you of you go into the woods! Cool huh?! Other than that though, they are very reliable and all over "awesome" cars. You want to some more? Cause I have a whole slew of these little buggars!

LIE! There is no timing belt GOOBER!!!! Its a timing chain motor, and thats why they don't break after 100k like Hondas. LEGENDARY FAIL! Idk what the fuck was wrong with your moms car but it sounds like it was either a huge toilet or its a heap of bullshit. The AUTOMATIC transmissions suck, I know this because my sister has a 99 and at 90k a shaft walked over within the trans and wore a hole thru the aluminum case, so the auto's do suck, but thats why I got a 5 speed because they don't have that problem. The gas cap thing you are talking about is an evap leak problem, its not the way the gas cap is put on it is when it isnt sealing right, you just need to either get a new filler neck or gas cap, or track down the evap leak somewhere, I actually have an evap leak code in my car (only code showing by the way at 150k) and I get no "buck" lol it doesn't effect anything. Your mom probably had a bad starter when it didnt start in the cold, my sister had that same problem and a new starter fixed it. The motor revving to redline isnt the motor fucking up it is the trans, and my brakes are fine lol. The lighting on my Saturn COMPLETELY OWNS the lighting on my LT1 Camaro, it is like a blessing lol.

They are just about as safe as our Camaro's too, they have a pretty strong steel chassis, you think its made entirely of plastic for some reason... Just the body panels that cover the chassis are fiberglass. So they are pretty cheap to fix too, just buy a new fiberglass skin and straighten out the skeleton under it and put the new panel one :)

So in conclusion, your moms car was completely fucked and that's unfortunate that all that happened but it doesn't mean Saturn's are un roadworthy from the factory, come on you sound silly saying all this. I'm guessing the trans went, she didn't care/notice and just kept driving on it till it fell apart. Sounds like lack of maintenance to me, somebody maintained my car and my sisters which probably explains why ours are still running and very reliable and cheap with over 150k on each. :)

Saturn's FTW.

[DemonWithin99]

wow someones sensitive about his crappy lil beater...

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

heartbeat got PWNED!!!!

[ls6monte]

This could be a fun thread because Kevin is all pissed off about a FUCKING LITTLE SATURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lmao




BTW-they are not fiberglas, I believe it is Glass Reinforced Plastic as they call it. It's similiar to fiberglas but it isn't that.

ASS! How's that BITCH??????????

[black heartbeat]

dude you say this I'm referring do just my mothers car, which was very well maintained. I'm not, I'm using this from all the things that I have experienced going wrong wrong with all of my friends and acquaintances cars. Half of that argument you just made was just calling me a liar and saying that my family doesn't maintain their cars. And yes, it is true that the older saturns did have timing chains, later they "upgraded" to belts for noise reduction. In addition to my own experience I wanted to know what any of the well seasoned mechanics I knew around here thought. All of them I have talked to said the same thing and that it's amazing how many they see come in for service again and again. Of course I'm proly just making this up or the mechanics are full of shit. I mean why wouldn't they be? They just happen to be friends of mine. Honestly I was just trying to have a debate more of less and you decided to take it really personally and I'm sorry if I offended you. I'm not insulting your buying decision really. I mean how wrong can you go for 900 buckaroos? I'm just had really bad luck with them and everyone that I know has as well. Doesn't mean yours wont be fine. I mean, you never hear about the car that doesn't have any problems, you hear about the one that does. And btw, my father and I maintain my mothers vehicle. I know how to

[black heartbeat]

oh and one more thing, they can be easy to get parts for it, but you'd be amazed how pricey they CAN (not necessarily always are) be and they also CAN be really hard to find. For example, my moms tailight...wholy fuck no one sells it, it's pissing me off lol. and also, saturn is the gay planet....so there

[DemonWithin99]

no need to apologize for his misconception of the comment. 99.9% of everything on here is to be taken with a sense of humor.

if he wants to get all hyped up over his lil saturn then let him, he won't be the first.

besides isn't this an f-body forum who the fuck cares about yer saturn. it's a saturn...

[black heartbeat]

THANK YOU!

[KLAB]

lol im not getting hyped up or personal man you started stating false facts about the car and i corrected you is all, the things you said sound silly and far out tho.... never heard of boiling brakes, and mine is a 2000 with the timing chain, so why even bring up the belt? it does sound like whoevers cars those were wernt maintained well either by previous owner or whoever. obviously cars shit the bed and have problems. i didnt take anything seriously till you started trying to tell me i made a mistake buying a 900 dollar saturn. i take almost everything in a humourous manner just wheb someone says something dumb they get corrected :o

[KLAB]

oooo im not a whiny bitch either i just find it annoying when someone starts talking like they know everything about everything out of the blue lol.

[black heartbeat]

I'm just gonna stop talking about this subject cause I don't want to make bad terms in between us or anything. I like hanging out with you, you're a cool guy, and I'm sorry for how I came off. I didn't mean to, really. So are we cool?

[KLAB]

Yeah man, were cool! i guess you guys misunderstood me or demon just brainwashed you into thinking i was getting personal lol. i wasnt, simply backing up my saturn hahahaha. everyone backs up their argument around here no biggie. we should race saturn vs v6 tho itll be fun hahahaha. come to fridays in methuen on sunday.

[black heartbeat]

alright I'm glad to hear that and I totally understand dude. and yes I know, that saturn might win lol. I'll admit one thing, they can fucking move.

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

:shitstirrer::shitstirrer::shitstirrer:SATURN>CAMARO

[Spooky]

I seen a saturn once......


http://mypicturehost.com/out.php/i69082_doorlesscar.gif

[ls6monte]

^^^^^^^^^^^ Interesting for an old Renault or something like that!

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

I seen a saturn once......


http://mypicturehost.com/out.php/i69082_doorlesscar.gif


i can watch this over and over and over and just not get sick of it.... HOW THE FUCKKK!?!?!?!

[irockidz28]

hahaha sweet car dude

[black heartbeat]

lmfao!

[KLAB]

WTF thatd be me "It's alright guys it'll still pass inspection trust me!"

Saturn'd DONT MOVE! I must say tho this 5 speed is much better than my sisters auto because that thing was slooooo couldn't get out of its own way. The 5 speed feels quicker.

[black heartbeat]

well is a a four cylinder or a six? cause my moms six fucking moves!!!!!

[ls6monte]

well is a a four cylinder or a six? cause my moms six fucking moves!!!!!
Your mom had an L series! He has an SL series! Totally different cars! The SL's had 1.9 single/twin cam engines only.

[KLAB]

Mannnnnnnn that whole time we were arguing over two completely different cars....

I've got a 2000 SL1 5 speed 1.9L soch

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

:max:your both tools!!! :shitstirrer:

[ls6monte]

I didn't realize it either till he said his mom's car had the six, Then I realized his mom had an L-series! Those early L cars had the Opel 3.0 V6 and they had LOTS of problems!