I really need to do something about my driveway!

[DavidS]

I spent 4 hours playing in the mud this morning. The trailer had the Z in it so trailer + Z is almost 6,000 pounds.

A winch chained to a tree finally got it out.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/pratt1/misc/IMG_20140422_112019_652.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/pratt1/misc/IMG_20140422_095334_425.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/pratt1/misc/IMG_20140422_095357_687.jpg

[ZFreie]

That sucks David, why do you have to cross the yard like that? I'm drawing a blank on how the yards set up lol

[DavidS]

The house had a 3 car garage on one side and a 3 horse/1-tack room stable on the other side.

I changed the horse side into a place for the camaros. Old picture:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/pratt1/131Case-restoration/IMG_20130602_131939_870.jpg

The 3 camaros are there now, but I never did anything about making a driveway. It's muddy in front and I pulled the trailer in close so that I wouldn't bury the Z like I did to the 68.

I got in with no problem, but with the weight of the car, I didn't make it out so easy.

[ZFreie]

Oh, I didn't realize that it never had a drive way of sorts. Always figured it was attached like the garage. You gonna put in a real drive way out back now I'm guessing? Lol

[DavidS]

Oh, I didn't realize that it never had a drive way of sorts. Always figured it was attached like the garage. You gonna put in a real drive way out back now I'm guessing? Lol

Definitely at some point, but I'm not sure when. It's a great house but when I joke about it being a "money pit", I'm not really joking. HA HA.

My first quote at fixing the regular 1/8th mile driveway came back at $55k. I'm gonna need a few more quotes!

[Formula413]

Ouch. Looks like it's time to call a paver. You're not tired of opening your wallet for this place though right? LOL

[DavidS]

Ouch. Looks like it's time to call a paver. You're not tired of opening your wallet for this place though right? LOL
The first quote was for taking out the existing driveway and repaving it. They left out all the drainage stuff i asked for so I don't think the quote amount will go down.

It's definitely a money drain pit. For now, I have to slow down all my projects.

[ZFreie]

The first quote was for taking out the existing driveway and repaving it. They left out all the drainage stuff i asked for so I don't think the quote amount will go down.

It's definitely a money drain pit. For now, I have to slow down all my projects.I have a couple guys I sell parts to who have paving company's. It's to bad you don't live closer and I doubt they will travel that far lol

[DAWG]

I ditched my all season radials cuz they had no traction, Maybe you should do the same.
55k to do your driveway is really high?
about 10 to 12k to do the new section and 10 to 15k to repave existing.
After I seen your existing drive I would repave over it?
It wasn't bad at all?
heres the guys that did my drive 10 yrs ago. https://www.facebook.com/AndrighettiAndSonsInc
and they Race too!
they did my drive for $4700.00 and it was dirt gravel mix back then lol.

free estimates. (860) 482-3519

[DavidS]

Thanks Dawg!

Someone from Andrighetti And Sons is probably coming tomorrow but maybe later in the week to take a look at the driveway and give me a quote.

[LSX-Nation]

That sucks!

[Grovlet]

Thanks Dawg!

Someone from Andrighetti And Sons is probably coming tomorrow but maybe later in the week to take a look at the driveway and give me a quote.

If you want a second quote - Ayotte Brothers (http://www.ayottebrotherswindsor.com/) out of South Windsor

They did an excellent job on our driveway - Widened from 8 to 12 ft - 100 Ft main section where they had to completely remove old pavement and go down 18" to regrade plus 20 x 20 section of brand new area - $5K total if I remember:dance-1:

Worth a call if you are shopping it out!

[DavidS]

If you want a second quote - Ayotte Brothers (http://www.ayottebrotherswindsor.com/) out of South Windsor

They did an excellent job on our driveway - Widened from 8 to 12 ft - 100 Ft main section where they had to completely remove old pavement and go down 18" to regrade plus 20 x 20 section of brand new area - $5K total if I remember:dance-1:

Worth a call if you are shopping it out!

Funny you mention them. I remembered your old message about Ayotte and I called them for a quote this morning.

Thanks!

[Grovlet]

Funny you mention them. I remembered your old message about Ayotte and I called them for a quote this morning.

Thanks!

I remembered some early on discussions on the Driveway - but couldn't remember if I had provided their info....

They were definitely good to us - I was "shooting the Sh*&*T" with the owner for quite some time when they came out to quote the job, and they were good about updating us on scheduling and work plans as needed.

For the size of the job you need - it's definitely worth multiple quotes as even for our driveway we got a wide range of pricing (and some higher ones didn't even include all the details we knew we wanted) :bird:

Good Luck with it!!:gears:

[DAWG]

So how did the estimates go David?

[DavidS]

Hey Dawg,

Andrighetti never showed up. Not sure why.

I've got Ayotte coming Wed morning for an estimate.

I've got Maglieri Construction and Paving coming out sometime during the week but for some reason they just want to work on the the estimate themselves and not talk to me beforehand.

[DAWG]

Hey Dawg,

Andrighetti never showed up. Not sure why.

I've got Ayotte coming Wed morning for an estimate.

I've got Maglieri Construction and Paving coming out sometime during the week but for some reason they just want to work on the the estimate themselves and not talk to me beforehand.
Call em again?

[DavidS]

Call em again?
Probably not. He didn't seem too interested on the phone. He said he would show up at 9 am and said that if he couldn't he said he would call.

He never showed up and never called.

[DavidS]

I was "shooting the Sh*&*T" with the owner for quite some time when they came out to quote the job

Lester Ayotte was here this morning to work on the quote. He is the first guy to actually listen to what I was saying about all the ponding water. He was real specific on important details like directions of curtain drains.

It's going to be a few days for the quote, but I'm hoping it's reasonable.

[DavidS]

Ayotte is definitely not inexpensive.

Their quote for driveway & drainage is $81,485.

[ls6monte]

Ayotte is definitely not inexpensive.

Their quote for driveway & drainage is $81,485.

OUCH!!!

[DAWG]

WOW! are they paving it with Gold??????
15 to 18k tops.
that's with the old removed and new substrate etc.

[DavidS]

With all the drain curtains I want, it probably won't be that inexpensive Dawg....but not 81K either.

I could buy a new Z with that!

[DAWG]

whats the latest?

[DavidS]

I'm breaking down this project into smaller parts.

My father-in-law knows an excavating guy. In a few days, he is going to give a quote on excavating 75% of the driveway and all the drainage.

[Grovlet]

Ayotte is definitely not inexpensive.

Their quote for driveway & drainage is $81,485.

WOW! are they paving it with Gold??????
15 to 18k tops.
that's with the old removed and new substrate etc.

Yikes - That does seem like it's high - I really thought they were reasonable on ours - but not so much on a bigger job?:panic::lightingzapA:

Dawg - I'm thinking that 15 -18 is low though - I mean ours was $5k for 1600 Sq. Ft - with only a portion of that being torn out and regraded - and there's more size and options being looked at here - so I would expect some $$ but yeah the quoted amount is a bit shocking.....:sign0165:

[DavidS]

Update...after 5 quotes, and two no-shows, Ayotte was the 2nd highest bidder but they're the only one's that understood the amount of drainage I wanted.

I'm going to have two-thirds of the driveway done now, and the rest in a year or two.

Pic from this morning:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/pratt1/131Case-restoration/case-st-driveway.jpg

[ZFreie]

Sounds like you went with the guys who will get it done correctly for you. Might not be the cheapest but for something like this, you want them on the same page.

[Grovlet]

Good to hear!!

Still don't understand the huge price :confused5:- but sounds like you've done enough research to understand the best plan of attack:party2:

Hopefully that helps some of the "Mud" situation:sFun_explosive:

[ZFreie]

Good to hear!!

Still don't understand the huge price :confused5:- but sounds like you've done enough research to understand the best plan of attack:party2:

Hopefully that helps some of the "Mud" situation:sFun_explosive:I'm thinking Dave wants a bunch extra awesome. He tends to do that with his possessions. lol

[DavidS]

Good to hear!!

Still don't understand the huge price :confused5:- but sounds like you've done enough research to understand the best plan of attack:party2:

Hopefully that helps some of the "Mud" situation:sFun_explosive:

Adding two drain lines in front of the Camaro side of the garage and drainage on both sides of the main driveway gives me about a 1/4 mile of drainage.

Some companies who quoted didn't want to talk to me about drainage or told me I didn't need that much drainage. They wouldn't be the one's stuck living in the mud bog though.

Also, it's things like having geo-textile fabric encapsulate the drainage pipe and the rocks in the French drain that made me go with Ayotte. They really know their drainage & driveways!

[Formula413]

The price isn't that surprising when you consider the size of the driveway and all the details

[DAWG]

COOL! nice to see your finally getting it done.
Can I christen the new drive with a good smokey burnout?

[ZFreie]

I agree, let's rubber coat his drive way so no seal coating is needed.

[DAWG]

WELL, I didn't see a NO!:gears::gears::eek:

[DavidS]

HA HA HA. Have at it guys!

[DavidS]

They started tearing out the old driveway this morning:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/pratt1/131Case-restoration/driveway-072414.jpg

[DAWG]

Nothing better than fresh laid asphalt smell!:drools:

[KB93z28]

Nice! Too bad I don't live closer to ya, Im a heavy equipment operator and I do drainage like this aaalllll the time. And yes the fabric makes all the difference in the world. That way your drain pipe doesn't get clogged up with silt over the years. Looks like quite the little project!

[KB93z28]

Also instead of paving in front of your Camaro garage, (idk if you did already or not) you could always just have somebody come in and strip the loam down to the sub base and then just put down reground asphalt, much cheaper. I think that stuff works great, doesn't get dusty like gravel or reground concrete does and the more you drive on it, it actually almost turns into paved asphalt.

[DavidS]

Nice! Too bad I don't live closer to ya, Im a heavy equipment operator and I do drainage like this aaalllll the time. And yes the fabric makes all the difference in the world. That way your drain pipe doesn't get clogged up with silt over the years. Looks like quite the little project!

The drainage took a lot of time to finish. They had a pretty good size crew of 5 to 6 guys and it was about 5 days.

If you lived closer, I definitely would have asked you to quote it!

[DavidS]

Also instead of paving in front of your Camaro garage, (idk if you did already or not) you could always just have somebody come in and strip the loam down to the sub base and then just put down reground asphalt, much cheaper. I think that stuff works great, doesn't get dusty like gravel or reground concrete does and the more you drive on it, it actually almost turns into paved asphalt.

They are not paving in front of the Camaro garage but they are going to prep it for pavers.

I've been looking for pavers that look like cobblestone. That will be a project for next year. The mason that put in the steps and walkway recommended Techno-Bloc but I haven't researched it yet.

Something that looks like this would be nice:
http://www.monarchstoneinternational.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/05-Granite-5x5-5x8.jpg

[KB93z28]

That techno block looks awesome! Don't know much about it though

[DavidS]

That techno block looks awesome!

Sorry for the confusing post. The pic of the cobblestone pavers is from Monarch Stone International. I pretty sure it would be a lot more expensive than Techno-Bloc but I need to start getting quotes.

That's the look I want though.

[ZFreie]

Sorry for the confusing post. The pic of the cobblestone pavers is from Monarch Stone International. I pretty sure it would be a lot more expensive than Techno-Bloc but I need to start getting quotes.

That's the look I want though.I checked out the techno bloc website, looks nice but didnt research it much.

[ls6monte]

Burnout pit installed yet? LOl

[DavidS]

Burnout pit installed yet? LOl

HA. HA. Not yet Ron.

[DavidS]

Material cost for the 1,900 square foot area that would get pavers:

below is $14.25/sq ft so approx $27,000.
http://www.monarchstoneinternational.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/05-Granite-5x5-5x8.jpg

Unilock makes a cobblestone paver called the Courtstone. It looks good and it's $8.49/sq ft so approx $16,000.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/pratt1/misc/unilock-courtstone-dawn-pebble.jpg
This one is also Unilock Courtstone and is just a different color.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/pratt1/misc/unilock-courtstone-basalt.jpg

They all seems expensive but the $27,000 one is way too much.

[ZFreie]

Yea, the courtstone looks good, I like the tan one

[DavidS]

Yea, the courtstone looks good, I like the tan one
I think you're right. At some point, that's probably what I'll get.

[DavidS]

My driveway is getting paved today. :jackson: __________________________________________________ ______________________ :jackson:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/pratt1/131Case-restoration/2014-august-driveway.jpg

[ZFreie]

For the 1/8mile drags, I'm guessing were gonna start on the street side of your driveway?

[DavidS]

For the 1/8mile drags, I'm guessing were gonna start on the street side of your driveway?

Yep. Sounds good.

Don't want anyone to go the other way and hit the street going 90 mph. lol.

[KB93z28]

Lookin good!

[DavidS]

Lookin good!
Thanks! I have to wait a week to drive on it. :Drive5thGenSmilieAn

[KB93z28]

Thanks! I have to wait a week to drive on it. :Drive5thGenSmilieAn

Wow a whole week?! I've never heard of waiting that long. Better safe than sorry I guess haha

[DavidS]

That does seem long. I think after state/town road paving, they let people drive on it after 3 hours.

They gave me a paper that said one week though.

[Grovlet]

I waited two weeks on mine - just to really let it all settle - although that's a long walk in your case.

[KB93z28]

Yea I mean we do our own patches if were doing street work and after about an hour or so we let traffic drive right over it and it holds up fine. Maybe a parked car could leave indents where the tires were if it sat there long enough....who knows....:idontknow:

[DavidS]

I was thinking that maybe they do a better job packing the pavement down with town and state roads with heavier rollers?

2 weeks seems like a real long time so I'm good with 1 week. I took out a bunch of fencing so that we could park close to the house.

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

i think its the mix they use. driveways settle/use more tar roads dont settle as mush use more rock/gravel but are more porous. they do that so the road isnt closed for a week but also why the roads frost heave and crack.

[DavidS]

That makes sense.

and I definitely don't want it cracking.

at least not within the first year.

[DAWG]

any finished Pics David?

[DavidS]

any finished Pics David?
I'll have to take one soon.

This weekend we had a wedding, the Goshen Fair and a bunch of stuff the wife wanted to do. She's trying to pack stuff in before Alex goes back to school tomorrow.

[LSX-Nation]

busy busy busy!

[DAWG]

Im glad Im through with sending the kids off to school .

[DavidS]

Im glad Im through with sending the kids off to school .

Yep. Things are kinda nuts lately and my wife is making me run in circles, but I perservere.

I took a few pics this weekend.

The main part of the driveway:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/pratt1/2014-Sept/2014-Fall-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/pratt1/2014-Sept/2014-Fall-2.jpg

This part will get pavers, hopefully next year:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/pratt1/2014-Sept/2014-Fall-3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/pratt1/2014-Sept/2014-Fall-4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/pratt1/2014-Sept/2014-Fall-5.jpg

[Formula413]

It looks fantastic! Of course a mint '69 sitting on it dresses it up nicely. LOL

[ILuvPizzaTimes10]

were are the lights?!?!?!?!?! Perfect 1/8th mile!!!! haha

[KLAB]

that looks great man. You have a really nice dwelling

[Grovlet]

were are the lights?!?!?!?!?! Perfect 1/8th mile!!!! haha


I was thinking the same thing:p:moon:


Looking Good!!:sFun_crazydance:

[DAWG]

Looks Good david.
I cant wait for my first Burnout on it lol.

[ZFreie]

Did you give them pictures of a drag strip when you were having it build? Looks better then ned!

[DavidS]

Thanks guys! I'm glad you like the driveway (and house).

At some point, I might need to pick up the Port-A-Tree from JEGS. lol.

http://www.jegs.com/images/photos/7913100.jpg

http://www.jegs.com/i/Port-A-Tree/791/5200BK/10002/-1 (http://www.jegs.com/i/Port-A-Tree/791/5200BK/10002/-1)

[Formula413]

^ Yes!!!

[frankzlt1]

You need to widen your driveway a little then the fun will begin.

[ls6monte]

Thanksgiving Day Burnouts at David's house!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Everybody be there!!! Lol

[DAWG]

LMAO!:TagSilverOnBlack:

[Formula413]

Oh man, that's perfect! I never did get to go to the turkey burn.

[DavidS]

I definitely need an update.

[DavidS]

It's been a while but I now have a cobblestone section of the driveway.

Backstory:
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15 years ago I worked for a German company and the president of the company took me to a town called Esslingen and showed me parts of the town built around 800 bc.

Some parts of the town were not as old, but many parts looked like this:

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l604/1969Z/2015-Oct/esslingen-cobblestone.jpg

Cobblestone streets everywhere.

New Story:
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In 2012, while I was buying a horrific foreclosure, Jeff68 suggested going with cobblestone on the driveway.

It took a long time, but I finally have a driveway that is part cobblestone. I took this picture today:
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l604/1969Z/2015-Oct/cobblestone-camaro.jpg

[Mystery Bird]

I like it. Great job.

[DAWG]

Nice! just in time for winter!:Oops:

[DavidS]

I like it. Great job.
Thanks! I'm happy with the way it came out.

Nice! just in time for winter!:Oops:
It's good that I don't have to plow that part of the driveway. I'd end up plowing big sections out of it.

[DAWG]

yes that has happened to someone I know.