cop shoots kid on harley
 

what an asshole..kid just turned around on the bike and he gets shot...talk about trigger happy...hope the cop gets what he deserves. (a little disturbing btw)
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?se...cal&id=7433661

another cop thinking he is going to save the day..there was absolutly no reason for that at all this is why i have zero respect for 80% of cops

and people wonder why I say if a cop ever asks me any thing i just say I need a lawyer to talk to you

Not even goin to read it. It'll just piss me off to a level I don't like going too.

wath the video. The second vid of the the full 6 minutes of the cop following them. Its not like they didnt know he was back there and still took off like assholes. And then once he pulls up behind them and tells the guy to put his hands up he looks back at him kinda weird and then goes to turn around. In the heat of the moment and seeing as how one of the bikers tried to take off I can see why the cop was on edge. He def should have given the command for hands up a few more times but the way the biker looked back at the cop and then looked foward again and the body language he was using I can see why the cop thought he was armed.

I see that point too Mike, he over-reacted too fast. the threat of a gun was never presented, and with the sound of the sirens, bike, and the distraction of watching your friend loose control of his ride there was clearly a need to repeat the order to put his hands up.

umm did any one ever think that may be he was just an idiot or was wearing ear plugs. I wear them when i go on a long ride some times

If I get pulled over an the cop has his gun out behind his door. Earplugs or not. My friend loosing control of his ride or not, my ass is putting my hands high in the air. Ive been in the situation before. Its an automatic thing. Sirens, cops, gun=hands in the air. He looked at the cop and looked away. Yes the order should have been repeated but the cop has to ensure his protection too. Any of you would too.

ya well the guy didnt even turn his body just his head. that cop was jumpy no questions about it

And if I had a gun in my belt I wouldnt turn all the way around either.

cop was wrong for pulling the trigger, end of story. I can relate to both sides of the story pulling a gun out is a reaction, pulling the trigger is not.

"Use of deadly force" is often granted to police forces when the person or persons in question are believed to be an immediate danger to people around them.

Deadly force is: The force that is used against someone to cause death, substantial risk of death or serious bodily harm.

the risk was never presented.

No thats not end of story. There is the heat of the moment going on there. Did he pull the trigger too quickly? yes. But the body language of the biker was giving of that vibe of "Im hiding something". The cop has to react to preserve his safety. Im not saying he didnt pull the trigger too quickly but Im also not saying he was wrong in the situation.

when u go to turn ur head around ur whole body moves with it. (put ur hands on ur legs and try it) and yes the cop was jumpy but where the hell would the guy even have the gun? his hands were on his legs im sorry but if ur not allowed to move the way ur body is meant to to turn around without being shot at theres a problem. i dont see how the guy did anything wrong...did the cop say put ur hands where i can see em????

you can turn your head without the whole body moving (watch the video). And yes the cop did.

how long you been riding? find yourself in the same position and try to look over your shoulder. cop was wrong because the rider showed absolutely no signs of a threat.

the threat was never there.

^ i agree. and that is y the cop is in BIG trouble lol

What does how long Ive been riding have to do with it? And I can look over my shoulder without moving my lower body. The sign of a threat is when the retard looks back at the cop who is pointing a gun at him yelling and doesnt put his fuckin hands in the air. Instead he looks back the other way without his hands being visible.

the vids i watched had no sound?? wtf so i didnt hear him say anything. ive sat on bikes before and turned around and my whole body moves so u must be unhuman and an owl if u can do that lol and he didnt move his lower body. he turned his upper body which ur arm is connected to.

are you watching the same video? the cops orders for him to put his hands up came a split second before he pulled the trigger, now before the cop even got out of the car the rider turned and looked at the cop with his hand on his leg.

the threat was never there.

Im not inhuman obviously but I can turn my head without moving my shoulders.
Doesnt matter what I say or what you guys say. Im not changing my mind about this as are you guys not changing yours.
IMO the cop pulled the trigger alittle too quickly BUT I believe he thought he was in danger due to the body language the victim was giving off.

With that Im done argueing with you guys about it.

was this the cops fault? or the 20yr old kids a block from their home coming back from buying cigarettes... < < link

my point here is that just because these fellow humans join the force and get trained to handle strange situations, make judgement's and uphold the law, but that doesn't exclude their abilities to make mistakes. In this case the cops involved were wrong for making poor judgement and breaking the law.

In the case of the biker the judgement was wrong on behalf of the cop, and he made a life changing mistake. a simple traffic violation that posed no threat to him did not warrant his actions.

to have him turn off his bike and get off of it would have been the appropriate action.


the question of how long you been riding was to gauge if you've ever been pulled over to verify the proper procedure for pulling over someone on a bike.