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99-02 z28/SS 6 spd tops clean decent miles modded
99-02 trans am/ firebird 6 spd t tops clean decent miles modded
04-06 gto 6 spd clean low miles mods/unloaded don't matter

... Soo guys help me find something faster than an LTJAUN FAIL ..
.. If you see anything around or in forums Craigslist anything let me know.. Thanks

if u think ur LT1 is slow then maybe u should learn a little more about ur car first.

yeah man haha if Fast is all your after. your car is HARDLY slow. and with WAY less invested then buying another car and modding it you could build yours up a bit and have a Truly fast car. LTs get a bad rapp ONLY because the LSWon came out. if it hadnt the engine itself is bullet proof. and people would still be building them.... Ohh wait they are. i still hate them and wish they would ALLLL DIE. But its not the ENGINE if your sick of the car fine but dont blame how fast it is.

I would agree that if you want an LSX just because you want a faster car you will probably be disappointed. I drove and LS2 GTO and it doesn't feel much faster than my car, even though it's .7 faster in the quarter than mine. I think you would enjoy a good converter way more than the extra horsepower. It's easy to get jaded on the internet. 300 horsepower is still a lot in the real world.

I despise my automatic, and from what I've seen and read h/c lt1 vs h/c ls1 lt1 makes like 100 less hp.. Don't make this and ltx vs lsx thread.. And gtos might not be much faster might be heavier and might have an IRS and aren't able to fit wide tires cause of small inner fender.. But it's what I like have always liked them.. What really want is a turbo lq9 6 spd with a 9inch rear end with 700hp b/c I have hp issues.. But that's probably about ten thousand away and I'd rather just buy one that is all done already with h/c and what not, and it's also easier to get an auto loan than a personal loan for me to actually build my car

never made it into a LT1 vs LS1 argument. Maybe should have made a wiser first purchase if u hate ur auto so much. Just make sure ur smarter on your second then. Dont settle for a car cuz its the only one for sale at the time. Make sure its something that your gonna love and not care about the payments with.

The only reason I got my Camaro is because I didnt have a car and my dad was selling it... He then cosigned a loan for me so I could buy the Camaro off of him.. At the time I didn't care it was auto.. I had a car, Dont get me wrong I love my car, just time to move on, my credit score is better now so I can afford another car, I can actually keep my car and get another far for like 11k, but I don't want the Camaro as a daily too much gas, I spend 420 a month on gas bow but I'm buying a 94 VW jetta beater for a daily from a guy from work for 200 93k needs inner tie rods, starter and alignment.. Be spendin half as much on gas.. But anyway.. Yea I want a 6spd and it's easier to buy one then to swap one Into my car..

for the money you want to spend you will be better off getting a BONE stock 99-02 for about 5-6k then pay don to do heads cam tune bolt ons and rear for the other 5-6 it will be about the same money and you will know that it has been done right and not beat to shit

You're smart to get a beater first and then worry about the toy, it will make everything easier.

I know they all don't meet the criteria but they are all food for thought.



http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/vehicl...e-dropped.html

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/vehicl...-498-rwhp.html

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/vehicl...s-400rwhp.html

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/vehicl...6-13500-a.html

I've seen all those not bad just really far away.. That Z06 was beat to all hell lol

And if I bought a 5k or 6k ls series car.. I'd have to take out a loan for about 11k and have to make the check out to whoever I buy the car off of, they have to give me the rest of the money back.. But I don't trust someone enough for that

A hc ls1 wont make 100 more hp then a proper hc lt1.. both motors have there down falls but a ton of people choose wrong shit for lt1s thinking there special..its just a gen 1 350 with reverse flow..u have head cam Ls making 550 just look at all the articles of reg 350s doing the same

Ill take a built auto over a stick car anyday..an built auto with mvb is just like a stick but with out a clutch..lots of fun..driving a man around can get boring an be a pain in the ass with stop an go traffic

I've driven an mvb car it was fun but I still like the six speed more, personal preference I guess, there is just so many options out there my head is spinning at this point.. I'm possibly going to look at a turbo ls1 gto tomorrow.. Idk.. Fuck this is stressful lol

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=391629.

^ hmm...

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthr...=375824&page=2

^hmm.. x2

While I agree a H/C LS1 may make close to 100HP more then a H/C LT1 you should know the difference in the way 450HP feels compared to 550Hp won't be nearly as obvious as the jump from 300 to the 450. At some point all that HP becomes useless to u unless you go to the track. To Be honest with you the absolute Happiest I was with the way my car ran was when i just had the teeny tiny GMPP LS1 hotcam in it. Sure it was wicked fast with the new engine but also harder to drive and caused alot more wear and tear on the drivetrain. Also not to mention that with a $400 cam I got to 11.7 in the 1/4 and after that it cost an additional $10K to get to 11.0 and have a reliable car that didn't self destruct every day. If I did it again there is no way I would go for such high power #'s on a street car, it would be less or I'd build a dedicated track car. I'd get a nice H/C setup for your car, maybe refresh the bottom end, a good stall and some suspension parts and you'll be shocked what you end up with.

Can't do the automatic...I like myself a manual, and I would love to have 700hp haha but that's useless, a mid-high 11 sec car is pretty much my goal while it being a 6spd and has a/c and if it's a f-body, preferably t-tops

I could buy 941le (mike) car with the rear end he's trying to sell ?? it just doesn't have t-tops or a/c.. And it needs a little more to get elevens I believe Correct me if I'm wrong

Its a 1LE!!!! I'f I didn't have my car I'd be all over that its a patriot red 1LE omg... :284492578_l:

It is nice no doubt about it

yep high hp v8 muscle car on the street will get old from the sound,gas,dealing with cops,up keep,ricers messing with you and so on an so on..

a camed lt1 will run 11s..shit the bolt on record is 11.48 and that car still had alot of stuff in it like radio,stock seats an so on.An going from a 300hp car to a 500-600hp car is a big step up an a diff world..can also kill you quick to if you dont know what your doing..


Anyone on here who has ever had a 600hp an up car as a streeter will tell you probley you find your self more times just putting along in low rpms to not burn gas,to not beat on it so you dont have to do a shit load of maintenance or break something an to not attract attion..

yeah the power is there but 95% of the time you aint even close to using 1/3rd of what you have..

only benefit from that much power is if you get a lot of track time to make it worth it, parking lot bragging rights, and short trips to the tire shop...

Yeah, you really gotta ask yourself why you want that much power, other than just to say "I have XXX rwhp". Honestly, 400 rwhp is a LOT. It gets harder and harder to actually use more power.

Wtf how many of you have had that much power? 500 rwhp is when it starts getting out of control but tires make all the difference.

tires do not make the diff..dont ever think that is what makes a diff..you could tub the shit out of it and run some damn 15x30's and still get in trouble with it..

As for saying 500rwhp is when it starts getting out of control is plan laughable..ive seen cars with 250whp be scary do to them being so damn light...

That much hp and just mist,dew or little experince on a road can get you in trouble..with nitto's,mickets or gy eagles on the ass end..

Its his money..im just trying to give him sound advice..i been there and done it and now i dont build street/strip cars anymore..If i want a fast car for toying around it is a track car..To each there own though..

i know dont have nothing to prove with saying oh my car is a street car and makes x amount of rwhp..rwhp dont mean dick,its not bragging rights for any real car nut..shits like supra owners..i make 1246rwhp..yeah but what do you run in the 1/4..oh its super fast didnt you just hear what i said for my rwhp numbers..yeah i did jackass but whats it run..ummm a 13.48 <you see the point..

right setup 350hp will get you 11s at 3200#s

Ok residential expert since you have had an f body at 500 hp lol we are talking about f bodies and yes tires make a huge difference. Tgis isn't a discussion about a 200 whp civic or vw that is uncontrolable on the street. Please atleast make your comments relavent to the convo. Also have sone first hand experience befire telling me i am wrong.

I know my car was a handful and didn't have 500 at the wheels. what it did have was a butload of low RPM torque.

Thats all tht matters to me. I like street cars. Torquey low rpm LT1's fill my quota. Thats why I'm not too interested in high rpm valvetrain portd heads and LS1's :P

Too many people want to be "top dog" and have "the baddest fastest car" out of everyone. I laugh at those guys while I roll by in my cheap fun street machine knowing I don't work every week to mod my car. One convo with my friend was "I've got like 450-500 with the 6.0L 5.3 ported heads and fast intake then the nitrous is all over what do you have?"

"Money in my bankkkk!" :klab:

First thing first..i dont claim to be a expert or claim i know everything..im always trying to learn more about shit..but i do know enough to get me by.


Now Lol,Your fucking dead wrong...Real question is have you ever drove a 500hp car on the street or even track?judging by your tire responce im going with no..You def dont seem like the sharpest knife in the box bro.Seeing with your theroy 500rwhp on the right tire will not break loose even in rain,dew,mist,oily,ice,snow or sandy conditions because its on the RIGHT tire..lol

Them must be them new tires out you know the ones that bond with the road as your drive and when parked the car couldnt even be lifted by a crane because of the super tires..;)




An first hand experience..hmm lets see ill use my last 4th gen seeing we are talking about these chassis now which had a 331sbc an was around 600hp on motor and 750 on a baby shot..had also a 406ci motor that made around 670hp on motor and was built for 300shot that was street drove in it..before i sold the car i was going to run outlaw drag radial with it an built a sb2.2 412ci n2o engine that made 881hp on motor and was setup for 500 shot.That was just my 4th gen car..but no your right i have no clue about power and street driving..


my low hp comment was also first hand..had a 88iroc with the pretty stock 350 that i daily drove,fucked around and drifted some with when bored and i could step the ass end out quick as shit in that car on nitto's,bfg's an eagles..all i had to do was give it barely any gas and if the roads where wet,sandy or oily the car could 180 on a dime..with its breath taking 200hp..

So how much first hand would you like..An if you read my shit i said to each there own..just giving the kid a heads up on how shit is an how fast shit can go south and what to expect with a car of the 500rwhp level.

So take it for what its worth and have fun..im not going to sit and argue over the net.

My car makes 370 rwhp i drive it all the time and it's like driving a civic everyday on spray it makes 450+ and i used it plenty not a handful or a big deal even drove through winter. Don drives 600+ hp cars daily on street winter etc.... With dr's my car will not spin on a roll unless on the jug and that is in 2nd or 1st tires make a huge difference. But whatever i won't argue with you but i did it do it and will continue so i guess i am wrong though lol

i got a car and it's got small tires on it and it goes fast... like a whole lot of fast.... and people yell at me to slow down ... cuz I eat too fast...

sell you mine. i want a pewter one anyways.13k

Ok everyone... Calm down.. I'm not buying a car with high hp to brag or to claim I am the man cause my car has XXX HP... I'm doing it for me because it's what I like... Thank you for your advice and if it's too much power for
Me and I hit and tree and wreck the car that's a learning lesson for me, but a car is only as fast as you make hit the accelerator.. I'm looking at this car..

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/vehicl...l-weekend.html

Tberryz28.. Shoot me a text or call me when you get a chance, well talk business about your car. Five zero eight two eight two one nine four five

buy what YOU WANT!


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Thanks maddie and i will :) alot of options out there that's all.. If I can find another car for like 10 or 11k I can keep the Camaro and have two f-bodies :)

I've got like ~550-580 at the wheels and I can hook fine through the 10bolt and BFGoodrich G-Force sports...

Not too bad looking on the car, kinda steep on the price though. It's a 99and has damn near 100k on it, and really the mods aren't that good except the rear and suspension. If he'd go $9000 I'd say go for it

Yea I'm still talking to hIm now.. Also looking at others

found one in boston, not far, and a good price with a tasteful mod list, pizza will confirm this =]

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