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ArcticSS 02-21-2011 10:10 PM

Suspension replacement parts
 
Looking for a decent shock and spring combo. I want to upgrade the shocks and springs and i do want to lower the car just an inch or inch and a half. Its been sitting in my garage for the past couple months and the rear end has too much play.
Also going to pick up a shock tower brace while im at it. Looking at Bmr and Umi for the shock tower. Prob going with the eibachs for lowering since its reasonably priced. For the shocks the bilsteins are just friggin expensive and ive seen adjustable Kyb's that are cheaper.

Its not gonna be any sort of drag car and it prob wont see the track, but any opinions would be grateful. Its a 2000 z28 if it helps. Thanks

Batman 02-21-2011 11:39 PM

Adjustable is not always better, KYB AGX's have some pretty sketchy stories, they are either great or terrible and there never seems to be any rhyme or reason to it. I've done a few sets of the Edelbrock IAS shocks and they are great. The fronts are fully adjustable coilovers (ride height, not compression/rebound). A set of those with rear eibach springs makes for a nice set-up. If you are going to do adjustable bite the bullet and get QA1's

ArcticSS 02-21-2011 11:55 PM

Not really looking for adjustable, just figured they would ride better. Where did you find those edelbrock shocks? I might go look those up. :sCh_elmodance:

Batman 02-22-2011 12:44 AM

Summit, Jegs, pretty much everywhere has them. They are not cheap, they are about the same prices for the rears as Bilsteins, fronts are pricey but they come as a fully assembled unit (mounts, shock, spring, etc) They are also big beefy monotubes. They ride really nice and handle really well when you get on it. These were going on my car if I had kept it.

Rears:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-34031/

Fronts
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-33031/

rear springs
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-5246/

ILuvPizzaTimes10 02-22-2011 02:54 AM

i like the Konis Strano Setup. have riden in Quite a few cars in my day and any and all with eibach springs Suck compared to stock. they do not have the correct spring rates for the ride height change. they are cheaper ill give them that But if you want a better ride dont waste your time with eibach. better off getting the Cheapy Summit Springs. there the same things with a different paint on them.

Now the best ride ive ever had in an F Bucket was an SS with the Bilstien HD's and stock springs. for what its worth.

ArcticSS 02-22-2011 03:56 AM

I do want some bilsteins but i do need rear springs. Ill be looking for the next couple days. Thanks.

Yeah the eibachs dont have progressive spring rate prob thats why they're so cheap.

Batman 02-22-2011 04:26 AM

They sure look progressive rate....Strano makes nice stuff too.

c4boom 02-22-2011 03:46 PM

my car works real well with just the stock SS set up it is a slp car though Hooks good and can hit ramps almost as good at a vet

ArcticSS 02-22-2011 03:57 PM

Oh i was told some of them dont have spring rate. I am looking at some strano springs right now. Thinking they should pair well with the Bilstein Hd's?
Koni's s are a little out of my budget right now. I like the edelbrock coilover setup but it doesnt drop the height in the front. It just drops it in the back an inch and a half. Not sure how that setup would look. It does make it a hell alot easier since the front springs are already on though.

Basically the Edelbrock setup is around $800.00 with all springs and shocks included.

If i went Strano springs and Bilstein shocks i'd be looking at around $650-700.00 and i would need to rent a spring compressor to do it. Decisions decisions

c4boom 02-22-2011 04:05 PM

auto zone = free tool rental

ArcticSS 02-22-2011 04:17 PM

Yeah i know but i really hate using them Last time i rented one it broke off and they made me pay for it. I was using it correctly and it just failed. Screw them

Batman 02-22-2011 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArcticSS (Post 39215)
Oh i was told some of them dont have spring rate. I am looking at some strano springs right now. Thinking they should pair well with the Bilstein Hd's?
Koni's s are a little out of my budget right now. I like the edelbrock coilover setup but it doesnt drop the height in the front. It just drops it in the back an inch and a half. Not sure how that setup would look. It does make it a hell alot easier since the front springs are already on though.

Basically the Edelbrock setup is around $800.00 with all springs and shocks included.

If i went Strano springs and Bilstein shocks i'd be looking at around $650-700.00 and i would need to rent a spring compressor to do it. Decisions decisions


The front ride height is adjustable on the edelbrocks, there is a an adjustment on the outside of the shock that compresses the spring to whatever height you so desire

http://static.summitracing.com/globa...dl-33031_w.jpg

ArcticSS 02-22-2011 09:55 PM

I called strano and asked a few questions and he basically told me the best combo to get was his springs with the koni's and i dont have the budget right now to be dropping that much. Idk i'll see what happens

Formula413 02-22-2011 11:03 PM

Lol Sam practically won't let you buy anything but Koni's. I got them for my car with stock springs, they work good but honestly I don't think they're worth as much as they cost. I did get them on sale though.

ArcticSS 02-22-2011 11:42 PM

Yeah i know. I told him a couple different setups i was looking at. I said i was looking to do his strano springs with bilstein shocks or an entire edelbrock setup. I know i dont know the most about this stuff. He did tell me pretty bluntly that koni's would work best with his springs. I think he actually sighed. lol

Also i forgot to mention before i have no bump stops either bc they were cut off. I didnt even think of this and im not sure if they would be a problem since i would end up getting stiffer springs even though i am lowering it. If so then oh well maybe ill just replace the worn rear shocks then.

Slowhawk 02-23-2011 01:37 AM

Strano designs his stuff to work the way he want's. By mixing parts it screws up the result. Thats probly why he sighed. I go it everyday on calls.

ArcticSS 02-23-2011 03:57 PM

Well for right now i just need rear shocks, maybe in the future ill get some springs and some front shocks. Wasnt expecting the price to be that high for the koni's. So i think i will just go with the Edelbrock Ias shock for now.

BryanH 02-23-2011 07:38 PM

I think what you want is SLP spec Bilstiens and a good lowering spring if you are looking to save money. I've heard the Bilstiens work well with lowering springs for many miles but eventully wear a bit and can't dampen the springs as well. So they won't give you the ideal roll control possibly but will work fine for street driving. Bilstien shock quality is second to none. They are pretty cheap too.. around 350 or something for a set of four maybe??

Eibach springs seem to have sagging issues and are inconsistent with ride heights. I'd also personally avoid Hotchkis the way they are wound.. look like they would go coil bound before you hit your bumpstop. I have strano springs and think they ride really comfortably with my konis set correctly. Better than lots of cars on stock suspension in my opinion. BMR pretty much copied Strano's spring specs.. so you have that option too. If in stock, you'll get the Strano springs real quick in New England. His shipments are fast. I always go with Strano if I can. It helps that he knows me and I can email him whenever I need advice about almost anything car related.

I would go with front bilstiens too if you plan to swap springs. Expect your front shock top nut to be rusted stuck and have to be cut off. Next time if I need a spring compressor I'm bringing the coilover assembly to a shop and have them do the swap quick.. I've heard it's not expensive. Fighting with compressors sucks.

Formula413 02-23-2011 08:23 PM

Agreed on bringing the whole strut assembly to a shop, whatever they charge you to swap the spring over is money well spent to not have to fight with the spring compressor. If I have to do anything to my front shocks again that's what I will do.

ArcticSS 02-23-2011 08:55 PM

Well i already ordered the Edelbrock performer Ias rear shocks. If i dont like them i will switch to the bilsteins. I did mention to strano that i wanted to go with bilsteins and use his springs and he said it wont perform as well as the koni's but im not looking to shell out a thousand bucks on that.

If i like the edelbrocks im gonna go with what Batman mentioned and use the coilover system thats in the picture so i dont have to fight with a spring compressor. Couldnt really find any reviews on them except for a couple mentions on ls1tech. But those are gonna have to wait until i get my taxes back.

Ive brought a front spring assembly to a garage and they did both sides for like 25 bucks. No hassles.

BryanH 02-24-2011 04:18 AM

It's hard to draw any good conclusion by reading other people's reviews. Not everyone's gonna like the same thing. Ride quality is personal preference. Worst case scenario you don't like them but at least you got some experience in comparison. Suspension is one of those things where like 80% of the people giving advice on it don't know what they are talking about.

c4boom 02-24-2011 04:35 AM

hay alex hows my car corner and pizza hows it ride LOL

BryanH 02-24-2011 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c4boom (Post 39329)
hay alex hows my car corner and pizza hows it ride LOL

If you wanted the SLP setup.. I think it's pretty much SLP bilstiens with the SLP springs.. was there 2 levels? Might be only one type out now.

If you're all SLP then I'm assuming you have the 35mm front swaybar too


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