ZFreies Build and Questions
 

I figure ill start a thread of my build progress, ill get everything uploaded later, but I have a question.

Want to ditch my 2xx gears in the back. I have a 2 series carrier, Who make a 3.23 or a 3.42 gear that i could us in my 10bolt, and what brand should i go with and why.

Motive

Looks like the only one that will fit is part # G875342X which are 3.42. Now where to buy from?

I bought my 3:73's from summit

I have an a4 and trying to avoid 3.73s. ill see if summit sells the 342 2 series.

:edit: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MGR-G875342X/ Looks like those are them. I just HATE my 2xx gears out back, i have a massive dead spot, like at 35-50 mph in my current gears.

My red car is an a4 and is 3:73's if u plan on being na i think it's perfect

In all seriousness, how much mpg did you lose switching. My fear with 3.73s is high way travel; noise and mpg. I plan on running a not so muffled exhaust in the near future and don't wanna shoot my self while on the high way.

No idea but if your worried about mpg don't spend a penny on your camaro and go buy a daily driver or hybrid then when u have apare money mod the camaro

I have a DD civic that gets well into the 30s, doesn't mean I wanna go from getting low 20s on the highway to low teens with 373s because I don't have an m6.

Also, any idea what kind of rpms you turn on the high way at say 70?

I don't see the mpg problem but at 70 it's like 2500ishgiver or take a couple i don't drive it often. Also unless your turning 5k 10 mpg is huge lol

I drive my Camaro a lot, so i have to keep in mind a few things. But ill go with the 342s for now, and when i have to replace my rear end and Im not happy with the 342s, i can get better gears! lol

go with motives..i got mine from summit. Im glad i went with 3.73s instead of 3.42s. MPG really didnt change considering i always drove in 3rd gear when i had the 2.73s i still average 21-23 on the highway
Anyways it all depends on your preference and what u want to do with the car

Why did you drive around in third? lol And wow thats good gas mileage...you do have an ls1 tho

3.73's if your going to stay Na and Not get a stall??? 3.42 on an LT1 wont really feel much better then 2.73's or 3.23's. and if your gunna waiste the money for a gear set and all the install BS with having "thick" gears installed(re shimming the Carrier is an Almost guarantee. id rather go threw all the hassle for a set of gears that will Deffinetly help. cuz to be honest. its cheaper and easier to just get a 3.42 complete rear.

so you can find me a compleate rear with 3.42 for under 200 bucks? Im wanting to ditch the asr so that don't matter but I want to keep my abs for now. And yes, I do plan on getting a stall, I just don't have the coin for it this moment but I plan on either a 3200 or 3600(if someone has a 3600 yank id like to go for a ride, I don't want a sloppy converter, I've herd horror storys of stalls being to "loose" and I don't want that. I've read the yanks have a near stock feel while still being able to stall up to when you want it. So if people can vouch for that then a 3600 is what id get.)

If you can install a set of gears for under 200 bux you are the man!! 200 just covers the gears. What about the install kit fluids and time? A rear willl cost you 300 with out 3 channel. And they are factory gears installed and lapped in THAT housing. Will last years longer then any aftermarket gears installed by you or even a professional. 10 bolts are picky. Just my 2 cents

Alright, so a complete rear end would seem the way to go then. There is a reason I ask on here, I've never been there done that and you guys have. So with that, what rear end should i be looking for? Anything out of a 93-97 fbody with factory 3.42 or 373s?

Also the yank 3200/3600 stall any thoughts? and knowing I will stall it at some point would it be wise to go with the 3.42?

I will be the first to admit I know crap about performance mods/ fast cars. My Camaro is the fastest car anyone has owned in my family, my dads 300c with the 5.7 is next in line. So this is a whole new can of worms. I really do appreciate everyones thoughts and factor it in when picking parts, I feel like you guys wont lead me wrong. :wookie:

:edit: Feel free to call me out like pizza did about the gears, he was right I forgot to factor in fluid and install kit. Him being a "dick" and pointing that out very well saved me time and money.

Pizza beat me to it. I was gonna say the same thing about just swapping the whole rear if you're only looking for 3.42's.

Gunna stall it id say 3.42s and a 3600 yank ss series. Will be the best street strip setup I know of. But before you do a stall make sure you can the proper tranny tuning before hand!!

Ps wasn't being a dick but if I sugar coat it you might just not listen and I'm just trying to steer you in the right direction. Based on opinions and what I've done myself or have seen done sucessfully

Well your a dick to from trying to save me money! lol There, hope you don't feel left out now haha

From what I've read the 342 and yank 3600 seems to be a popular choice. So I should rebuild and beef up the tranny as well when I stall it? And I know you weren't being a dick thats why I put the "" around it. And trust me, im not one for sugar coating, tell me how it is, so i thank you for that sir! I prefer to be told Im wrong before I do something stupid lol

i mean its only an LT1 and no boost your not talking 600 at the tires. BUT the tranny is a weak point. and with a good set of tires its going to be either the tranny or rear end that will fail. up to you wich you want to upgrade first. id rather blow rear ends and keep buying 300 dollar replacements then have to spend 700+ for a good shape 4L60E. id say talk to a good tranny place like FLT. see what they recomend for your current and future plans.

Just at a quick glance looks like ~1600-2k. So looks like ill have to have about 4k set aside to do it all in one wack, and thats not counting wheels and tires either. So i could put the rear end in with no ill effects, but should wait and do the stall tires and tranny all at once? Seem like a good course of action?

ya id just pick up the rear for now...check out ls1tech people get rid of those rear ends all the time for decent money. I did my gears first so i could get a quick boost in power the cheapest way..then save up money for the tranny and stall and do it in one shot.

Seems like the plan to get the rear first then tranny and stall later, now I'm just not sure if i should hold out on sticky tires or not tho. I think with no stall and 3.42s everything would survive. Cause i also would be driving it knowing something could pop and wont thrash it i have upgraded everything.

So a 3 series carrier rear will bolt right up and maintain my abs? ASR is of no importance to me.

Thats the only thing I'm confused on still is which rear end will work.

You will need a 4 channel. They are typically more expensive. And if you get a 4 channel then both will still work. And don't forget you will need a mail order tune for the gears or you will burn up your tranny in no time.

Already have tuning tunercats, so ill be able to adjust it my self. And if I was willing to ditch both abs and asr would i be able to get a cheaper rear end? Or will it not make a difference?

a 4channel has abs and tcs and the sensors are on the ends of the axles. How would you go from one plug in the middle to the 2 on the ends pizza boy?

If he has traction control he HAS a 4 channel Meat head.

I have ASR and ABS, I want to LOSE the ASR and keep ABS if i can. I WILL get rid of ABS if its cheaper and easier to get a rear end. Its not my DD do it makes no difference.

So two questions now.

What channel would i need to keep ABS and lose ASR?
What channel would i need to lose BOTH ABS and ASR?

3 channel is just ABS and 4 channel is ASR and ABS

So a 2 two channel would be with out both? Do they even exist? If not then ill shoot for a 3 channel and ditch my ASR, cause i shut it off every time I get in the car. Rain or not.

there is no 2 channel

u can also unplug ur ASR under the hood if it annoys u to constantly shut it off. My asr switch is broken so i just unplugged it lol who needs traction control

Alright, so a 3 channel it is, and if i get rid of the ASR ill get a new cable and delete the whole unit. The more weight out of my car the better, its becoming a stripper slowly, i have no interior basically anymore lol

well a 4channel like yours has 2 plugs one on the end of each axle a 3 channel has a ring on the carrier and a plug on the pumpkin. I know you can just use the axles off the other or the ring but I dunno about the wireing/plugs. since Pizza chose to ignore my ? and just be a dick lol

Ohhhhh ok i see what your saying now. So my only choice would be to go with a 4 channel and just remove the asr? Because i have one abs sensor on the end of each axle?

about time you smartened up!

I have to say I wish I went with a 3600 Stall... I have A4 with 3.73's and a 3200 stall...wish I went higher with the stall but hey i got a deal on the stall........

just go with a take out 3.42 rearend, 99-02s will have a torsen diff from the factory (unless it was an slp ss) which is way better than the 98 and older auburn pos. i doubt youll want a 3600 in an LT1 that only has bolt ons (unless your tony) a 3000 max would most likely suite you well, especially since youre concerned about mpg.

that converter probably feels tighter than it should with the gears you have.

So my current rear end has an auburn diff and they suck? I just don't want to murder my gas mileage, i don't mind losing some but I don't wanna entirely ruin the long distance ability of the car. lol

So I need a 4 channel 3.42 99-02 rear end. Should I just call some junk yards? lol

So
YANK STEALTH 3000
or
YANK SUPER STOCK 3200

3200 is smaller?, 200 bucks more, and .15 more str. Worth it?